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EXPENSES OF PILGRIMAGE TO AMERICAN CEMETERIES

IN EUROPE

HEARINGS CONDUCTED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, MESSRS. DANIEL R. ANTHONY, Jr., WILLIAM R. WOOD (CHAIRMAN), LOUIS C. CRAMTON, EDWARD H. WASON, L. J. DICKINSON, ERNEST R. ACKERMAN, ROBERT L. BACON, JOSEPH W. BYRNS, JAMES P. BUCHANAN, EDWARD T. TAYLOR, AND WILLIAM A. AYRES, OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IN CHARGE OF THE SECOND DEFICIENCY APPROPRIATION BILL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1930, ON THE DAYS FOLLOWING, NAMELY:

TUESDAY, JANUARY 21, 1930.

STATEMENT OF COL. W. R. GIBSON, QUARTERMASTER CORPS

The CHAIRMAN. Colonel, we have an item here to pay the expenses of the Gold Star Mothers on their visit to Europe. Tell us something about that.

Colonel Gibson. This is an estimate amounting to $5,386,367, to provide funds to cover the expense of the pilgrimage of mothers and widows to the cemeteries in Europe as authorized by the act of March 2, 1929. It is estimated that this amount will be sufficient to cover the expenses of 6,100 women, which is the estimated number who will desire to go during 1930 and in May and June of 1931.

The CHAIRMAN. How do you arrive at your estimate of the number that will take advantage of this opportunity?

Colonel Gibson. That is purely an estimate. It is based, however, on a survey that we have made to determine those who desire to go in 1930.

TIME LIMIT WITHIN WHICH TRIP MUST BE MADE

The CHAIRMAN. What is the period of time in which they have to take advantage of it if they do go? Colonel GIBSON. The act of March

The CHAIRMAN. I understand that, but what I mean is, in what space of time must the mothers go to take advantage of this appropriation? Is there any limit of time?

Colonel Gibson. There is no limit of time.
The CHAIRMAN. I understood that there was a limit of time.

Colonel GIBSON. The act which authorized it specifies that they may go at any time between May 1, 1930, and October 31, 1933. The CHAIRMAN. That is what I had in mind.

Colonel GIBSON. The reservations which we have made on steamships run from the 1st of May until September of 1930.

DISTRIBUTION OF ESTIMATE

The CHAIRMAN. Can you tell us what the program is with reference not only to carrying them over there on the boats, but with reference to taking care of them while they are there? What does this expense include?

Colonel GIBSON. I have a breakdown of the estimate here.

The CHAIRMAN. I think it would be well for you to put your detailed statement in the record. You have it worked out there, have

you not?

Colonel Gibson. Yes, sir; I can leave this copy. (The statement referred to is as follows:)

Supporting data

SALARIES AND WAGES

Departmental service, office of the Quartermaster General:

Advanced to Nov. 30, 1929...
To be advanced to Feb. 28, 1930.

$13, 651 12, 232

3, 067 1, 534

2, 667 1,500

4, 800

(From Mar. 1, 1930, to June 30, 1931) Clerical, administrative, and fiscal service: Grade 6, $2,300 to $2,800; average, $2,550—

1 principal clerk, at $2,300, for 16 months

1 routing clerk, at $2,300, for 8 months. Grade 5, $2,000 to $2,500; average, $2,250 —

1 senior clerk, at $2,000, for 16 months.

1 senior clerk, at $2,000, for 9 months. Grade 4, $1,800 to $2,100; average, $1,950

2 clerks, at $1,800 for 16 months. Grade 3, $1,620 to $1,920; average, $1,770

4 stenographers, at $1,620 for 16 months.
3 assistant clerks, at $1,620 for 9 months.

3 assistant clerks, at $1,620 for 8 months. Grade 2, $1,440 to $1,740; average, $1,590

2 junior clerks, at $1,440 for 16 months.
2 junior clerks, at $1,440 for 9 months.
4 junior clerks, at $1,440 for 8 months.
3 junior clerks, at $1,440 for 7 months.
3 junior clerks, at $1,440 for 6 months.
1 junior clerk, at $1,440 for 5 months
1 junior operator, office devices, at $1,440 for 5 months.

8, 640 3, 645 3, 240

3, 840 2, 160 3, 840 2, 520 2, 160

600 600

Total..

$70, 696

Field service:
(1) In New York City-

2, 400

1, 200

Salary range, $2,300 to $2,800; average, $2,550—

i chief clerk, at $2,400, for 1 year. Salary range, $1,800 to $2,200; average, $1,950

1 baggage master, at $1,800, for 8 months. Salary range, $1,620 to $1,920; Average, $1,770

4 information clerks, at $1,620, for 9 months.

3 stenographers, at $1,620, for 9 months. Salary range, $1,440 to $1,740; average, $1,590—

3 typists, at $1,440, for 9 months.. Salary range, $1,200 to $1,500; average, $1,350

8 nurses, at $1,200, for 9 months Salary range, $1,020 to $1,320; average, $1,230

2 messengers, at $1,020, for 9 months.

4, 860 3, 645

3, 240

7, 200

1, 530

Total..

24, 075

$2,000

1, 867

2, 492

1, 755

Field service-Continued. (2) In Europe

Salary range, $2,900 to $3,400; average, $3,150

1 finance clerk, at $3,000, for 9 months. Salary range, $2,600 to $3,100; average, $2,850

1 finance clerk, at $2,800, for 9 months Salary range, $2,300 to $2,800; average, $2,550—

1 principal clerk, at $2,300, for 13 months. Salary range, $1,620 to $1,920; average, $1,770—

i information clerk, at $1,620, for 13 months.
Salary range, $1,500 to $1,800; average, $1,650—

3 clerks, at $1,500, for 9 months
1 baggage and customs agent, at $1,500. for 9 months.
8 interpreters' assitants, at $1,500, for 9 months.
Salary range, $1,200 to $1,500; average, $1,350
1 clerk, at $1,200, for 9 months..
2 stenographers, at $1,200, for 13 months.

10 nurses, at $1,200, for 9 months.--
Salary range, $840 to $1,020; average, $930-

1 clerk, at $900, for 9 months..
Salary range, $600 to $840; average, $720

4 typists, at $720, for 9 months..
2 mail clerks, at $720, for 9 months.
3 checkroom attendants, at $720, for 9 months..

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SUBSISTENCE AND SUPPORT OF PERSONS (SERVICE), INCLUDING TIPS FOR ALL

PURPOSES

173, 850

While in New York City, enroute to and from Europe, 6,100, at

$9.50 per day for 3 days..
While in Paris, France, and London, England, 5,980, at $8.50 per

day for 7 days.-
While outside of Paris, France, and London, England, visiting

cemeteries, 5,980, at $6.50 per day for 622 days.

355, 810

252, 655

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TRAVEL EXPENSES
Pilgrims:
Railroad and sleeper or chair cars from home to New York City

and return, 6,100, at an average cost of $104.04..
From Cherbourg to Paris, France, and return, 6,000, at $9.36

each.--From Southampton to London, England, and return, 100, at $4..

634, 644

56, 160

400 Attendants:

From Cherbourg to Paris, France, and return, 22 times, for 24
persons, at $9.36...

$4, 942
From Paris, France, to London, England, and return, 3 times,
for 3 persons, at $35.60.-

321 Fares by water:

Pilgrims-From New York City to Cherbourg or Southampton,
England, and return, 6,100, at $350 each..

2, 135, 000 Attendants--From New York City to Cherbourg, France, or Southampton, England, and return, 40, at $350 each..

14, 000 Motor transportation: Pilgrims

United States-Taxis and motor buses from train to hotel

and hotel to boat while en route to France and from boat
to hotel and from hotel to train while en route home,
6,100, at $4..-

24, 400 In Europe-From train to hotel in Paris, France, and Lon

don, England, from hotel to cemeteries and other historic
places and return to hotel, and from hotel to train en
route home, 6,100, at $26.05.-

158, 905 Attendants

Taxi, street-car, and ferry tickets for 8 officers acting as
conductors and 4 nurses, for 9 months, at $90 per month.

810
Per diem in lieu of subsistence and other expenses while
traveling-
Pilgrims-

United States—From homes to New York City
and return, 6,100 at an average of $24.80 each.

151, 280 In Europe 120 for 14 days, at $8 each..

13, 440 Attendants

In United States—9 for 9 months, at $6 per day-
In Europe-30 for 9 months, at $8 per day-

64, 800 Mileage to officers:

In United States—30 round trips, Washington to New York,

24,000 miles, at $0.08 per mileIn Europe-10 officers at 1,000 miles per month for 9 months,

at $0.08 per mile---Miscellaneous travel expenses:

7, 200 Pilgrims

Passport photographs and oaths and tourist taxes, 6,100
pilgrims, at $5.25 per capita---

32, 025 (Consists of passport photographs, at $1, tourists

taxes, at $4 each and oaths, at 25 cents each.) Customary fees, deck chairs, etc., while en route to and from Europe: Pilgrims, 6,100, at $24 each..

146, 400 Attendants, 40, at $24 each.

960

14, 580

1, 920 $24, 400 27, 450

Total, travel expenses.

3, 462, 187

TRANSPORTATION OF THINGS
Supplies ---
Of remains, estimated 21 at $375 each.--

1, 000 7, 875

PRINTING Printing 7,500 invitations, at 25 cents each..

1, 875

RENTS Offices:

In United States, 9 months, at $500 per month..

In Europe, 11 months, at $100 per month.--.
Motor vehicles in Europe: Hire of cars (including all supplies and

services required therewith) 5 for 9 months, at $305 per month each.

4, 500 1, 100

13, 725

SPECIAL AND MISCELLANEOUS CURRENT EXPENSES Laundry service:

In United States, 6,100, at $4 per capita --

In Europe, 6,100, at $4.50 per capita ---
Burial expenses (estimated): 21, at $225 per capita (includes all

expenses except transportation).
Medical and surgical care and treatment, 17,600 hospital-days, at

$20 per day-
Badges, 6,100, at $0.40 each...
For all other necessary and unforeseen expenses which can not be

anticipated.--

4, 725

352, 000

2, 440

500,000

Total special and miscellaneous current expenses.

911, 015

EQUIPMENT

Office equipment (to include punch machines) -
Reception-room equipment.--..
Furniture and equipment for rest rooms at cemeteries.

980

600 8, 875

Total equipment...

10, 455

12. STRUCTURES 4 temporary buildings, at $5,000 each (for rest rooms and temporary

shelter at each of the 4 larger cemeteries)

20, 000

Total...

5, 386, 367

RECAPITULATION
Salaries and wages -
Stationery-
Medical and hospital supplies.
Subsistence
Communication service-
Travel expenses.-
Transportation of things..
Printing -
Rents.
Special and miscellaneous current expenses.
Equipment..
Structures.

134, 420

1, 300 24, 400 782, 315

10, 200 3, 462, 187

8, 875 1, 875 19, 325 911, 015 10, 455 20, 000

Total.-

5, 386, 367 Colonel Gibson. This is broken down into salaries and wages for administrative forces which will be required in Washington, in New York, and in Paris.

SALARIES, ETC., IN WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, AND PARIS The CHAIRMAN. You had better tell us first about the salaries, and so forth, in Washington, New York, and Paris.

Colonel Gibson. You would like to have me run through this in detail just as it is broken down?

The CHAIRMAN. That is right.

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Colonel Gibson. The first item under salaries and wages is reimbursement for the amount which has been advanced from the funds appropriated for the Quartermaster Corps for clerks to do the work that has been done to date.

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