which weighed 90°. It was pronounced good, though too new to be fairly judged. He said frost did not injure well ripened Catawbas; one year ago he left some on the vines till the 20th of January, and they were sweet and fine; ice was on the bay then. Mr. Barney, of Sandusky, said his crop had done well, considering the severe test of frost. When fruit is ripe, with a bloom, it is not injured by frost. Tops of the vines were badly cut by frost (October 12th) in some vineyards, but fruit not injured; picked some in December, sweet and good.

Mr. Lum, four miles from Sandusky, had a few vines of Catawba not well pruned; fruit did not ripen; leaves killed by frost 12th of October.

Mr. Kelly, of the Island, said crop ripened well, no frost till 1st to 10th of Novem ber; no injury to the grape; must as sweet as ever; season two or three weeks longer than on main shore. Vegetation on the Island starts when the water in the lake reaches 40° of temperature, (about two weeks later than on the main land,) then no frests occur.

Mr. Boalt said the Catawba had not done well at Norwalk; soil sandy and gravelly, not as favorable as heavy soils, if well underdrained; had seen grapes pretty good at Berlin, three miles from the lake.

Mr. Woods, of Jefferson county, Ohio, said near the Ohio river the Catawba ripens well, but not so well a few miles back.

Mr. Bateham, of Columbus, did not think the Catawba often ripened perfectly around Columbus, and yet it was called ripe, and made a fair sort of wine; he thought other varieties would supersede it in a few years.

Dr. Warder said around Cincinnati the rot was the great misfortune of the Catawba ; the crop of the past season was not over one-third to one-half a fair average; he expected a yield of 800 gallons, and only got 50; others were more fortunate.

grape that shall prove equal to the Catawba, and exempt from the rot, is the great desideratum there.

Messrs. Lyon, Scott, and Adair, of Michigan, spoke of the Catawba as seldom ripening well there.

Mr. Nelson, of Fort Wayne, Ind., said it generally ripened so as to be called good, and sells well, but is not very sweet.

Mr. Beeler, of Indianapolis, said it did pretty well there, especially on limestone soil.

Mr. Emery, of Ill., said on river-bluffs the Catawba was found pretty good; other parts not much value.

CLINTON. Mr. Elliott and Mr. Bateham were of the opinion that this variety might be dispensed with, now that so many better hardy varieties can be had.

Mr. Storrs, of Painesville, considered it worth cultivating, so hardy, vigorous, and productive; fruit pretty good after a frost, and ladies like it for pies.

Mr. Scott liked it better than Isabella fer eating, but some doubts were expressed as to his being the Clinton.

Mr. Dewey had made wine of it, strong and harsh, with three pounds of sugar to the gallon, and one-half water; was pretty good.

Mr. Barney thought it was worth growing for wine where the Catawba will not ripen.

Mr. Emery, and others, thought it valuable at the North, but might be generally displaced by Concord and H. Prolific.

Dr. Waider liked the Clinton when fully ripe; and it makes pretty good wine, Cbetter than the Oporto,) which may be found valuable for mixing with other wines. CONCORD. Dr. Taylor considered this the grape for the farmers, or those who will not take the pains to cultivate finer varieties.

Mr. Elliott and Mr. Powers expressed similar opinions; called it the people's grape; hardy, vigorous, early, productive and good, though not first rate.

Mr. Campbell said, without being a very good grape, it had many good qualities; not very good to carry or to keep; good for home use and bome market only; he would cultivate it for its hardiness, earliness, and productiveness.

Mr. Fahnestock, of Toledo, said it was very hardy and reliable, and the grape for the million.

Mr. Scott, of Adrian, and others, from Michigan, also spoke highly in its favor. Mr. Nelson, of Ind, said the Horticultural Society of that State bad recommended it as the best single variety for the million.

Mr Emery said it was more disseminated in Illinois than any other variety.

CUYAHOGA -Dr. Taylor referred to his remarks at the meeting of the Ad interim committee, and said the fruit did not ripen as well as he had hoped the past season, hence he had some misgivings as to its reliability in his climate, still he had hopes that it would improve as the Diana and some others had done. The leaf sometimes mildewed.

Mr. Barney had the fruit ripen well, but late; quality better than Lydia, but three or four weeks later.

Mr. Campbell said it did not ripen with him, nor did the Catawba; he thought the one would ripen where the other would.

DELAWARE.-Mr. Storrs and Dr. Taylor called it the best of all grapes, especially for amateurs; grows strong enough with proper soil and culture; thinks it will also prove a good wine grape.

Mr. Elliott coincided, and said it bears carriage finely, though he thought it was liable to crack if not picked soon after ripe.

Mr. Powers and Mr. Lum found it the best of all grapes.

Mr. Boalt the same, and said he considered it just as much a farmer's grape as the Concord; for he did not see why the best grape was not the best for farmers as well as for other people.

Mr. Nelson said he was a farmer, and he liked the Delaware grape, but he would venture the prediction that it would never be as extensively planted or approved by the million as the Concord.

Mr. Campbell spoke of the Delaware as keeping remarkably well till Christmas or

later.

Mr. Dewey expressed surprise at this, and said, with him it was the poorest variety

of all to keep; "What, poorer than the Concord?" asked one: Yes, poorer than any other;" said Mr Dewey, "for I put a basket of about twenty pounds of fine bunches in my cupboard one day, and in 24 hours afterwards not a grape was to be found!" This proof was deemed quite conclusive that the Delaware is a bad rape to keep!

DIANA. Mr. Elliott and Mr. Storrs said their impressions of this grape were more favorable than formerly.

Mr. Bateham thought it very variable; had seen it quite poor, ripening unevenly and flavor very bad, and at other times very good; he was not yet prepared to recommend it highly.

Mr. Lum had it ripen well, but flavor was too foxy.

Mr. Jones, of Toledo, liked the flavor, found it ripens as well as Catawba.

Dr. Warder thinks the vine a little tender; does 'nt quite like the fruit; not fit for table, thick skin and pulp objectionable; may prove useful to give flavor to wine. like the Delaware.

HARTFORD PROLIFIC.-Mr. Elliott spoke well of it as an early and hardy grape, good for the north. Its chief fault is the habit of the berries falling off as soon as ripe, rendering it unfit to carry to market.

Mr. Powers likes it well, berries do not fall off much after the first one or two crops. Mr. Dewey and Mr. Boalt approve moderately, another "farmers' grape." The gentlemen from Michigan and Indiana also like it pretty well.

ISABELLA. Mr. Storrs said this was still a good and popular grape in many parts of the country, though not so much thought of as formerly. He alluded to the babit of this variety to sport or vary in the form and size of berry and bunch, and the discussions that had arisen therefrom, some persons supposing there were two or

more kinds.

Mr. Bateham said this subject was discussed at some length at the meeting of the Committee Ad interim in September, and he read an extract from the report of the

same.

Mr. Elliott said there were certainly two varieties of the Isabella on Kelley's Is land some years ago, if not now, and also in Medina county, and some other parts.

Dr. Taylor said he was at Dr. Kirtland's one day, as grapes were ripening, and Dr. K., said: "There was a good Isabella till the roots got into that sewer, and now it is a good Aiken." He had noticed wherever the supposed two varieties existed, that the Aiken had the richest soil.

Mr. Campbell said he had vines from Dr. Kirtland, as the Aiken, planted them in rather poor soil, and the fruit was simply the old Isabella.

Mr. Powers found the Isabella doing well in his locality; had noticed the disposition to vary in size and shape; where he had dug a trench and put in dead dogs, manure, &c., fruit large, round, resembling the Union Village, while others retained the old size and shape.

Mr. Dunnipace, of Porrysburg, had seen grapes exhibited as a new variety, very large, round berries and compact bunches; procured cuttings from the vine, and set

them in a vineyard along with the common Isabella, and the fruit was precisely the same-the old shape and size.

Mr. Bateham spoke of the improvement of this grape by good culture, and of the necessity of thinning the crop when bearing full, to ensure its ripening evenly.

Mr. Dewey said he had made fair wine from this grape, but the addition of a little sugar was necessary, the must only weighs about 70o.

Mr. Adrian said the Isabella was more grown than any other variety in Michigan, and was approved there.

LOGAN.-Mr. Elliott spoke well of this grape: had seen it several years; as early as the Hartford Prolific, and better quality.

Mr. Barney had known it very many years; original vine on Scioto river, in a big wild cherry tree; thought it the best early grape.

Mr. Nelson had known it in Indiana, 25 or 30 years; it was introduced there from the Scioto country; he thought it of some value for earliness and hardiness, but not of very good quality.

Mr. Campbell said it was very hardy and early, fair quality, but deficient in size of bunch and productivemess.

LYDIA.-Mr. Flliott thought this might be found a good grape for early market culture; has thick skin, fitting it to bear carriage well, fine color, and good flavor.

Mr. McKelvey, of Sandusky, said it had done well with him the past seasonrotted the year previous.

Mr. Barney and Mr. Lum, of Sandusky, had observed it for several years; thought well of it, but did not think it a good bearer.

Mr. Ward said he had a fair crop of it, but not half so much fruit as on the same wood of Isabella. Did not think it sufficiently productive for a market variety.

Mr. Campbell had found it early and good-not quite as early nor as productive as the Delaware.

MOTTLED. Mr. Elliott said the more he saw of this grape the more highly he esteemed it; thought it might prove a good wine grape.

Mr. McKelvey had seen it several years at Mr. Carpenter's; did not think very highly of it.

Mr. Barney has had it for six years; finds it improves; counts it worthy of trial by amateurs.

NORTON'S VIRGINIA was spoken of by Dr. Warder and others as becoming very popular as a wine grape in Missouri and the southwest, but doubts were expressed whether it could be relied on to ripen its fruit generally in Ohio; though Mr. Elliott said he had known it to ripen well at Cleveland.

REBECCA. Dr. Warder, Mr. Fahnestock, Mr. Powers, Mr. Elliott, and others spoke well of it.

Mr. Campbell said it was not quite hardy, and mildews sometimes.

Mr. Adair said it wants a little protection in Michigan, but fruit is fine, and he likes it.

ROGERS' HYBRIDS.—Mr. Campbell, by request, stated his views at considerable

ones;

length in regard to these new grapes, describing the most valuable and promising but his remarks being in substance the same as already published in this and other journals, it is not necessary to occupy space with them here further than to say that, as the result of his experiments with a large number of these seedlings, he gives the preference to the following six, in the order here named: Nos. 3, 15, 19, 33, 4, 9. No. 3 he considers best of all he has yet tested. It ripens with the Delaware. ALLEN'S HYBRID.-Mr. Elliott spoke well of it as an amateur variety; had doubts whether it is a hybrid; perhaps only a seedling from a foreign sort. Mr. Campbell likes the fruit-good deal like Chassellas-has not mildewed as yet-seems as hardy as Isabella-fruit too delicate for market; season a little later than Delaware. Mr. Patterson had found it very good in Michigan.

ADIRONDAC.-Mr. Elliott spoke of this new grape as promising to be the best early hardy grape known-the vine as hardy as the Delaware, and a vigorous grower ; fruit of fine size and quality; very early and productive; not yet fruited in Ohio. CREVELING. Mr. Campbell had fruited it, and finds it a pretty good early grape -better than Hartford Prolific and quite as early.

Mr. Campbell gave a brief account of his experiments in raising new varieties of grapes from seed, mentioning several byl rids that he thinks may prove of value, but which have not been sufficiently tested as yet.-See an article from his pen in the Report of the Department of Agriculture for 1862. Remarks were also made on quite a number of other new grapes, but too little was known respecting them by persons present to make it worth while to publish what was said.-Sec'y.

ON GRAPE CLIMATE AND CULTURE.

The proximity of this meeting to the famous grape regions of Kelley's Island and the adjacent coasts of Lake Erie, secured the attendance of quite a number of gentlemen engaged in this branch of horticulture, and nearly a whole day was devoted to discussions on the soil and climate best adapted for grape growing, modes of culture, training, pruning, &c.

J. W. Scott, Esq., read a paper on the peculiarity of the climate of this grape region, as compared with the vine-growing districts of Europe and other parts of this country, giving statistics from the Smithsonian reports of the fall of rain in different parts of the year, &c. The average amount of rain during the summer months is found to be, at Cincinnati, 14 inches; Cleveland, 10 inches; Ann Arbor, 8 inches; Sandusky and Toledo, about 9 inches. He attributes the remarkable success of the grape in this region to several causes: the excellence of the soil-calcareous, marley clay, naturally dry or easily drained; the climate sufficiently warm to ripen the fruit; moderate fall of rain, and seldom heavy dews or fogs during the latter part of summer and early autumn; the blossoming of the vines being retarded in spring by the coldness of the water in the lake, absorbing the warmth of the air till danger of late frosts is over, and the ripening time being prolonged in the fall by the warmth of the lake keeping off early frosts.

Mr. Scott referred to a valuable essay on the Climatology of American Grape Vines,