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Testimony of-Continued

Smith, Dr. Donald N., assistant director, Industrial Development
Division, Institute of Science & Technology, University of Michi-

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Stanwix-Hay, Maj. Gen. Allen T., Deputy Assistant Secretary of
Defense (Intelligence and Logistics) for Materiel_

Appendixes to statement.

Sweeney, Robert R., Chief, Industrial Plant Equipment Branch, Headquarters, Defense Supply Agency.

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Tomlinson, Victor C., counsel, Chrysler Corp

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Walker, H. T., president, Walker Die, Tool & Engineering Co.,
Atlanta, Ga..

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Zeidler, Oswald W., president, Zeidler Tool & Die Co., Detroit, Mich. Additional information:

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Colt Industries, Inc., Pratt & Whitney Division, letter to House Small
Business Committee, September 18, 1969.

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Detroit Tooling Association article, "Michigan Maintains Its Tool and Die Leadership".

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DOD administrative remedies.

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Ford Motor Co. letter to Hon. Neal Smith, July 10, 1969.

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General Electric Credit Corp. letter to House Small Business Committee, September 18, 1969

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General Motors Corp.:

Answers to questions submitted by House Small Business Com-
mittee__

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Chevrolet interorganization letter, July 11, 1969.......

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Cost analysis to determine optimum in-house capacity (chart).
Passenger car die construction, car divisions and Fisher Body
(table) -

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Passenger car sheet metal die construction workloads (chart)
Proposed die construction facility.

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U.S. manufacturing employees and skilled tool and die employees as a percent of U.S. manufacturing employees (chart) – Hollabaugh, Marcus A., letter to House Small Business Committee, September 22, 1969.

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House Small Business Committee letter to Marcus A. Hollabaugh,
August 6, 1969_.

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Kearney & Trecker Corp. letter to House Small Business Committee,
September 15, 1969-

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Tool lease agreement.

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Laird, M. R., letter to Hon. L. Mendel Rivers, October 1, 1969–
Machine tools, examples of actual rental computations for--

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Metalworking News article, "GM Spikes Talk of Big Tool Orders in
Canada".

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Office of Emergency Planning-Defense Mobilization orders_
Office of Emergency Planning policy guidance on Government-owned
production equipment...

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Steel Weekly, article, "Steel Features-Chrysler Builds Tomorrow's
Stamping Plant Today".

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Summary of renewal payments (table).

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Appendix 1-Technological Change in Michigan's Tool and Die Industry, by Donald N. Smith.

Appendix 2.-Make-or-Buy Decisions in Tooling for Mass Production, by
William A. Paton and Robert L. Dixon.

"Creep," by Robert L. Dixon...

app. 2, p. 29

PROBLEMS FACING THE TOOL AND DIE INDUSTRY

TUESDAY, MAY 20, 1969

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON SPECIAL SMALL BUSINESS PROBLEMS

OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:15 a.m., in room 2359, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Neal Smith (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Smith, Addabbo, Horton, and Conte.

Also present: Gregg Potvin, general counsel; T. J. Oden, subcommittee counsel; Myrtle Ruth Foutch, clerk, and Fred M. Wertheimer, minority counsel.

Mr. SMITH. The subcommittee will come to order.

This is the Subcommittee on Special Small Business Problems. We are commencing hearings today on several problems presently facing the tool and die industry. This industry is very important to our economy and constitutes the foundation upon which almost all manufacturing capacity rests.

The tool and die industry, as a supplier of basic production equipment, has been a very important factor in meeting the commercial needs of the country, and of course their skill and ingenuity are even more vital, as we become an increasingly technological society.

It has been alleged that the tool and die industry is currently facing several major problems, and that one in particular could alter the composition of the industry as we have known it. The tool and die and automotive industries have continually and historically had a close working relationship.

Recent developments, however, in expansion of the captive or inhouse potential by the automotive industry have caused many tool and die businessmen to fear that an end to this historically close relationship may be soon forthcoming, or that at least major adjustments may be expected.

We hope that these hearings will answer several questions, including:

(1) Whether a buildup of in-house facilities by the automotive industry signals a drastic change in their manner of acquiring their various tooling needs.

(2) Whether the fear of an adverse effect by the small tool and die businessmen is justified.

(3) If this change does take place, will it so weaken the independents as to reduce their ability to respond to other production needs, and therefore affect the national interest, and

(4) Are any public policy questions involved that warrant further legislative interest either in the form of legislation or hearings.

Questions have also been raised by the tool and die industry concerning certain procurement practices of the Department of Defense. These questions involve the practice of major prime contractors subcontracting tool, die, and precision machining, working among themselves rather than dealing with independently owned tool and die shops; the practice of leasing Government-owned machine tools to large contractors; and practices of the Department of Defense in the procurement of spare parts.

As today's hearing begins, the subcommittee will receive testimony from representatives of the tool and die industry. At subsequent sessions, representatives from the automotive industry will testify as well as officials from the Department of Commerce and the Department of Defense.

We appreciate the appearances of witnesses before this subcommittee. Today and tomorrow, representatives of the National Tool, Die & Precision Machining Association will testify and present various aspects of the problem, or their view of the problem currently facing the industry.

I want to say at the outset of the hearing that we scheduled these hearings 6 weeks or 2 months ago, and there is no way to know that far in advance what the program will be in the Congress. This afternoon and tomorrow afternoon we have a very important supplemental appropriations bill, which affects practically every department of Government between now and the end of the fiscal year, and even their continuing resolutions for July and August, and we may have some difficulty. I wanted to explain now that you will hear bells ringing and we may have to leave and then come back, but we will do our best to accommodate the purposes of the hearings. I wanted you to know that we are going to have some problems this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon, but in the mornings I think we will be able to make good time.

Mr. Horton?

Mr. HORTON. Mr. Chairman, I want to thank you for calling these hearings, and also to express appreciation to you and to the other members of the subcommittee and of the committee for your concern for the problems of the small businessman, particularly in the tool and die industry.

The hearings which our subcommittee begins today involve some very serious and difficult problems which are facing the tool and die industry, and I might say parenthetically that this industry is one with which I am very much concerned. We have a large number, probably one of the largest concentrations of tool and die shops in the country, in the Rochester area, and many of these people are my constituents. I have tried to work very closely with them, and worked with them particularly in connection with the hearings of this subcommittee which were held during the 89th Congress in 1966.

This industry, which has played a very significant and valuable role in this Nation's economy for a great number of years, is also an industry which has been in the past and remains today one composed of thousands of independent small businesses. In this sense it shares a

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