Mr. HOPKINS. No; since June 30, 1936, only a very small part of their expenditures have been from Works Program funds.

Mr. TABER. The National Park Service; that is all emergency funds, I suppose?

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir. They had some 18,000 people working in the week ending December 26. I shall file for the record a tabulation showing the total number of persons and the percent of relief persons employed by the Works Program agencies from September 1935 to December 1936, by quarters, broken down by each agency.

(The statement referred to follows:)

CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS CAMPS DISTRIBUTED BY SUPERVISING AGENCY

Mr. TAYLOR. Does that show the C. C. C. camps that are working on the Reclamation Service?

Mr. HOPKINS. It would not show the C. C. C. under Reclamation. It would only show the items where the allocation was made directly to the Reclamation Service.

Mr. TABER. It shows the total number of the C. C. C. but it does not show what they are working at?

Mr. HOPKINS. No, sir.

Mr. TABER. I do not believe it is broken down as to that.

Mr. TAYLOR. There are some C. C. C. camps that are working on Reclamation.

Mr. HOPKINS. A great many. There are a great many in the national forests.

Would you like to have that table in the record, Mr. Taber?
Mr. TABER. It might be an interesting table.

(The table referred to follows:)

TABLE 26.—Civilian Conservation_Corps camps distributed by supervising agency

Total number of camps--

December 1936

Corps of Engineers_

Navy Department (navy reservations).

DROUGHT FAMILIES IN THE NORTHWEST

Mr. TABER. Can you call my attention to a page in this book that gives the distribution of the number of employees, by States, comparatively?

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir.

Mr. GILL. It is on page 49, by quarters and by States.

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Mr. HOPKINS. Do you want this, Mr. Taber, related to the population of the several States?

Mr. TABER. No. For instance, it appears that in the State of Washington, in September 1935, there were 18,000 on the roll; in December 1935, there were 49,000; in March 1936, there were 64,000; in June 1936, there were 45,000; in September 1936, there were 45,000; and on December 12, 1936, there were 43,000 still on your roll. Mr. HOPKINS. Mr. Taber, if you are talking about the W. P. A., those figures would run 25,000, 27,000, and 26,000. In the State of Washington, you have those large dams.

Mr. TABER. Where the total employment is larger in proportion to the population than it is in some other places?

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir.

Mr. TABER. That is, the relief employment is larger where those dams are?

Mr. HOPKINS. Well, I would not say that.

Mr. TABER. That is including the P. W. A.

Mr. HOPKINS. It is not that the relief employment is larger. The total employment, you will find, will be larger in those Western States in comparison with their population than elsewhere.

Mr. TABER. And it has kept up more steadily in a good many of them?

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir; they have had a number of large projects out there.

Mr. TABER. You have a larger number.

Mr. HOPKINS. There is about the same ratio of W. P. A. to the total in Washington as in the United States as a whole. If you go back, you will find that many of those people are not relief people. Mr. TABER. They are in regular employment.

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir. If you will take some of the big dams, the work is done under contract. When the contractor cannot find relief cases around the work, they ship them in. The same thing is true of construction work like that at Fort Peck.

Mr. TABER. That would be in Montana.

Mr. HOPKINS. We have about 12,000 drought cases there.
Mr. TABER. That accounts for this jump there.

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir.

Mr. TABER. They still had 22,000 on December 12.

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir; for total Works Program employment.
Mr. TABER. Those cases are off on Resettlement.

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir; the drought cases.

Mr. TABER. They would probably come under that account. Mr. HOPKINS. They did not take them all but they took a substantial proportion of them.

SPONSORS FUNDS FOR WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION PROJECTS

Mr. TABER. I want to get down to some questions with regard to W. P. A.: Is there any table in here that shows the percentage of contributions toward W. P. A. operations by the State and local authorities?

Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir.

Mr. TABER. Is it in the hearings?
Mr. HOPKINS. Yes, sir.