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CONRAIL SERVICE TO SMALL SHIPPERS

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WASHINGTON, D.C., APRIL 6, 11, AND 12, 1978

Printed for the use of the Committee on Small Business

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COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS

TOM STEED, Oklahoma

NEAL SMITH, Iowa, Chairman

JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan

JAMES C. CORMAN, California
JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

FERNAND J. ST GERMAIN, Rhode Island
CHARLES J. CARNEY, Ohio

HENRY B. GONZALEZ, Texas
JAMES H. HANLEY, New York
JOHN BRECKINRIDGE, Kentucky
JOHN J. LAFALCE, New York
BERKLEY BEDELL, Iowa

FREDERICK W. RICHMOND, New York

MARTY RUSSO, Illinois

ALVIN BALDUS, Wisconsin
RICHARD NOLAN, Minnesota

RICHARD H. ICHORD, Missouri

HENRY J. NOWAK, New York

THOMAS A. LUKEN, Ohio

JOSEPH A. LEFANTE, New Jersey

ANDY IRELAND, Florida

DALE E. KILDEE, Michigan

IKE SKELTON, Missouri

WYCHE FOWLER, JR., Georgia
BILLY LEE EVANS, Georgia

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
J. WILLIAM STANTON, Ohio
JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM S. BROOMFIELD, Michigan
TIM LEE CARTER, Kentucky

M. CALDWELL BUTLER, Virginia
WILLIAM S. COHEN, Maine
MILLICENT FENWICK, New Jersey
ROBERT W. KASTEN, JR., Wisconsin.
LARRY PRESSLER, South Dakota
DAN QUAYLE, Indiana

DAN MARRIOTT, Utah

THOMAS G. POWERS, General Counsel
LOIS LIBERTY, Publications Specialist
JAMES R. PHALEN, Minority Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINORITY ENTERPRISE AND GENERAL OVERSIGHT JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York, Chairman

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McDade, Hon. Joseph M., a Representative in Congress from the

State of Pennsylvania--

Byrne, Mrs. John, president, Bryne Ceramic Supply Co., Inc.; ac-
companied by Paul Bahnatka, traffic manager_.

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Campbell, Hugh L., III, president, New York-Pennsylvania Shippers
Association_.

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Dildine, Harold, manager and treasurer, Green Camp Cooperative
Elevator Co. -.

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Ernst, Frank H., vice president, Ernst Iron Works, Titusville, Pa..
Griffin, James W., executive vice president, Hornell Area Chamber
of Commerce, Hornell, N. Y.; accompanied by William Argentieri,
president__

Hagen, James A., senior vice president, Marketing and Sales, Con-
solidated Rail Corp.; accompanied by John L. Sweeney, vice
president, Government Affairs

Herkner, G. W., Jr., Assistant Director of Commuter Services, New
Jersey Department of Transportation; accompanied by Edward
H. P. Gilman, Supervising Trnasportation Analyst, Division of
Commuter Services_

Hickey, Hon Eugene F., mayor, Scranton, Pa-

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Keever, John A., executive vice president, Greater Scranton Chamber
of Commerce_

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King, Arthur B., president, Railroad Task Force for Northeast
Region, Avoca, Pa...

Lundine, Hon. Stanley N., a Representative in Congress from the

State of New York.

O'Neal, A. Daniel, chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission;
accompanied by Peter Shannon, director, Bureau of Investigations
and Enforcement, and Joel Burns, director, Bureau of Operations__

Senesy, John J., chairman, Somerset County Planning Board, Somer-

set, N.J

Taylor, Fred W., president, International Boiler Works Co., East
Stroudsburg, Pa...

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Zodikoff, Benjamin, director, Transportation Service Division,
New York State Department of Transportation..

Additional material supplied for the hearing record-

Burns, Joel, director, Bureau of Operations: Reasons for failure to
bill customers an estimated $10 million___

Byrne, Mrs. John, president, Byrne Ceramic Supply Co., Inc.:

Prepared statement.

Campbell, Hugh L., III, president, New York-Pennsylvania Shippers
Association: Tabulations, conclusions, and recommendations___

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Additional material supplied for the hearing record-Continued

Dildine, Harold, manager and treasurer, Green Camp Cooperative
Elevator Co.:

List of grain shippers concurring with testimony.
Responses for information requested during hearing-

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Ernst, Frank H., vice president, Ernst Iron Works, Titusville, Pa.:
Photograph of rail cars carrying freight. -
Prepared statement and attachments_

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Hagen, James A., senior vice president, Marketing and Sales, Consolidated Rail Corp.:

Field terminal review.
Prepared statement...

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Hall, Robert G., assistant planner, Hunterdon County Planning
Board, N.J.: Prepared statement.

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Hickey, Hon. Eugene F., mayor, Scranton, Pa.: Remainder of prepared statement..

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King, Arthur B., president, Railroad Task Force for Northeast
Region, Avoca, Pa.: Appendixes to prepared statement.---
McDade, Hon. Joseph M., a Representative in Congress from the
State of Pennsylvania: Map of route which an empty ConRail car
traveled 1,680 miles..

O'Neal, A. Daniel, Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission:
Estimate of annual revenue losses which might be avoided by
efficiency improvements..

Prepared statement and attachments__
Response to subcommittee written questions..

Senesy, John J., chairman, Somerset County Planning Board, Somer-
set, N.J.: Exhibits 1-7..

Taylor, Fred W., president, International Boiler Works Co., East
Stroudsburg, Pa.: Additional documents attached to testimony_-_-
Zodikoff, Benjamin, director, Transportation Service Division, New
York State Department of Transportation: Miscellaneous material......

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CONRAIL SERVICE TO SMALL SHIPPERS

THURSDAY, APRIL 6, 1978

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON MINORITY ENTERPRISE AND GENERAL
OVERSIGHT OF THE COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS,
Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:35 a.m., in room 2362 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Joseph P. Addabbo (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN ADDABBO

Mr. ADDABBO. The Subcommittee on Minority Enterprise and General Oversight of the Small Business Committee will come to order. There is no doubt that the quality and cost of transporting goods is vital to the commerce of this country. Railroads have traditionally played an important role in the course of commerce and are, therefore, integral to the operations of many business concerns, both large and small.

This committee has persistently held the belief that small businesses are, by their very nature, the most susceptible to adverse economic pressures. Therefore, the plights of small business are not only significant because small business is critical to the preservation of competition, but also because their troubles serve as the barometer of economic health for our Nation as a whole.

This subcommittee is in receipt of numerous complaints from small businesses relative to the quality and cost of service provided by ConRail. We shall hear these complaints from some of our witnesses and shall explore in detail the merits of their contentions. We shall also receive testimony from the Interstate Commerce Commission and ConRail itself in order to fully assess the magnitude and nature of the issues before us.

The Federal taxpayers have spent enormous sums to support ConRail and still more funds are now being requested. I hope that these hearings will, in some way, make clear to our citizens what they have purchased with their hard-earned money.

Since small business represents such an important force in our economy and is a true reflector of surfacing economic ills, I can think of no better way to present the facts to the public than by reviewing in depth the small business experience with ConRail. Mr. McDade?

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