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had something in their mind, for in- it is hardly within the realm of reason the emergency and then advancing this stance that they are going to create an to believe that a new farmer would go legislation with the minimum of delay. agency or reach in there and get some into a drought area and begin farming Mr. HOPE. Mr. Speaker, I move the money and to further usurp the powers operations, if that is what the gentleman

operations, if that is what the gentleman previous question on the conference rethat the Congress should have in this has in mind.

port. respect. I appreciate what the gentle Mr. ROGERS of Texas. I agree with The previous question was ordered. man has said and I want to compliment the gentleman on that; it is not what The conference report was agreed to, the committee, especially our chairman, I have in mind. What I have in mind is and a motion to reconsider was laid on for the promptness in which he took simply this: That although there has the table. hold of this thing and brought about this not been much said about it on the floor, relief, but I still want to say I certainly this drought disaster is not only affect

CUSTOMS SIMPLIFICATION ACT OF am not pleased with the attitude of the ing the farmers and the ranchers, it is

1953 Department in wanting to put this in affecting the little business people all definite, broad language in there which over that section of the country. Many Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I call up would permit the use of that fund that of them are leaving those areas and are House Resolution 327 and ask for its this Congress does not contemplate hunting for employment. Some of them immediate consideration. would be used and which I feel sure the cannot find employment, and many of

The Clerk read the resolution, as Congress would vote against being used them will have to turn to farming in follows: even for this worthy purpose. I shall order to feed their wives and children, Resolved, That upon the adoption of this vote for the conference report, of course, and the thing I want to do is to see resolution it shall be in order to move that but I cannot resist the opportunity to that those people, whether they be vet the House resolve itself into the Committee say that the Congress is making a mis erans or whether they be citizens, who of the Whole House on the State of the take in adopting a precedent by includ- have come from farms and work in fill

Union for the consideration of the bill (H. R. ing this broad language in the bill. ing stations, for instance, who will return 5877) to amend certain administrative pro

visions of the Tariff Act of 1930 and related Mr. TRIMBLE. Mr. Speaker, will the to the farms, will not be discriminated

laws, and for other purposes, and all points gentleman yield? against insofar as being able to maintain

of order against said bill are hereby waived. Mr. HOPE. I yield to the gentleman the economy of that section of the coun That after general debate, which shall be from Arkansas.

try is concerned. That is my interest. confined to the bill, and shall continue not Mr. TRIMBLE. I have received a Mr. HOPE. I would not want to say to exceed 2 hours, to be equally divided and communication from a constituent as to that a person in the situation described controlled by the chairman and ranking whether or not he comes under the pro by the gentleman from Texas would be

minority member of the Committee on Ways visions of this so that he may keep his eligible for a loan under this provision. having been

and Means, the bill shall be considered as

having been read for amendment. No own cattle and buy feed, and if he would I think he might be eligible for a loan

amendment shall be in order to said bill ex- : be allowed to purchase his neighbor's under the regular Farmers Home Ad

cept amendments offered by direction of the disaster cattle under this loan?

ministration program, but I do not think Committee on Ways and Means. AmendMr. HOPE. I do not believe it is con this legislation was designed to encour ments offered by direction of the Committee templated that under this legislation age nonfarmers to go into the farming on Ways and Means may be offered to any

section of the bill at the conclusion of the loans will be made for a man to expand business in a drought area. I would very in the cattle business unless it were much question any program which did

general debate, but said amendments shall deemed by the local committee that this have that in mind.

not be subject to amendment. At the con

clusion of the consideration of the bill for would enable him to carry on his exist Mr. ROGERS of Texas. I certainly amendment, the Committee shall rise and ing operations in a more effective or would not subscribe to a policy of trying report the bill to the House with such efficient way. I can see that there might to send people into a drought area, be amendments as may have been adopted, and be some situation where a local com

cause they could not possibly survive, the previous question shall be considered as mittee which is administering the pro but it is the people who have been on

ordered on the bill and amendments thereto gram might decide that was the case; the farms and gone to town and worked,

to final passage without intervening motion, but certainly it is not contemplated in the people who have been born on the

except one motion to recommit. general that this program will be used farm, taken into service and returned; Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 to finance someone who is going into the many of those boys will come back into minutes to the gentleman from Missiscattle business more extensively than he the domestic economy of this country in sippi [Mr. COLMER) and yield myself 15 is at the present time.

the next year, and they have in the past minutes. Mr. TRIMBLE. I thank the gentle two years, and those boys will have to.Mr. Speaker, this bill is known as the man.

have some place to turn, and I simply customs simplification bill. I rise to urge Mr. ROGERS of Texas. Mr. Speaker, do not want to put a bulwark against the adoption by the House of House Reswill the gentleman yield?

them, because I think they are entitled olution 327, making in order the considMr. HOPE. I yield to the gentleman to the same rights as others.

eration of the bill H. R. 5877, to amend from Texas.

Mr. HOPE. I appreciate the gentle certain administrative provisions of the Mr. ROGERS of Texas. I do want to man's comments.

Tariff Act of 1930 and related laws, and clarify one point in reference to subsec Mr. ROGERS of Texas. I thank the for other purposes. tion (b) that we were speaking about a gentleman,

This resolution provides for a closed moment ago.

When this bill left the Mr. FISHER. Mr. Speaker, I asked rule, waiving points of order against the House there were two conditions preces the chairman, the gentleman from Kan- bill. Amendments may be offered at the dent to a man's eligibility to participate sas [Mr. HOPE), to yield to me for the direction of the Committee on Ways and in this fund. One was that he had lived purpose of expressing my gratitude for Means, and 2 hours of general debate in an area that had been declared a his promptness in preparing and push- have been scheduled. major disaster area under Public Law ing this much-needed legislation through The bill H. R. 5877 proposes to mod875, 81st Congress. The other was that the Congress. The bill was considered in ernize the existing customs laws by apthe Secretary found that he was suffer- committee only a week ago today, and plying sound and well-tried business ing from an economic disaster also. Now it appears that it will be on the Presi- methods to the administration of these am I correct in that understanding? dent's desk tomorrow. There are some laws. In addition to simplifying the en

Mr. HOPE. Yes; that is correct. provisions that are not entirely satis- tire customs procedures and this is a

Mr. ROGERS of Texas. Now then, factory, but in the main the measure is, very technical bill—this bill is designed the conference report places one more in my opinion, a good one. It will give to reduce expenses to the Government condition precedent, making it three, the the Secretary of Agriculture authority to and to the public, and to cut down on the third condition precedent being that he expand the loan program in the disaster delay and minor irritations that are now must be an established farmer or area and will provide for sale of feed for part of the normal customs experience rancher in order to participate.

livestock at prices in keeping with the of the average citizen. Mr. HOPE. I think that was implied emergency that exists. The gentleman The bill has had the benefit of the originally. It is in there now in specific from Kansas [Mr. HOPE] has been most combined suggestions of the Department language. Of course, it seems to me that zealous and cooperative in recognizing of the Treasury and the Bureau of the

Budget, and is the result of extensive and The Clerk called the roll, and the fol- countervailing duty which will offset the intensive hearings on the part of the lowing Members failed to answer to their amount of the grant or subsidy given Committee on Ways and Means. Presi- names:

by this foreign country to the particular dent Eisenhower in his state of the Union

[Roll No. 88]

item that is being imported into this message mentioned that one of the aims Abbitt


O'Brien, N. Y. country. Under the amendment as proof his administration was to simplify the Addonizio Harrison, Va. Patten

posed by the gentleman from Pennsylcustoms regulations, and this bill does


vania [Mr. EBERHARTER) the Treasury Barden

Hays, Ohio Philbin just that.


will not be required to impose a counterI do wish to correct one possible mis

Reed, Ill.

vailing duty but shall impose a counterapprehension which arises from the fact Bender Hinshaw Riehlman

vailing duty only when some industry Betts Holifield

Rivers that the statement was unintentionally

Robeson, Va.

complains and then proves that there made during the hearings before the


is an injury as the result of the importaRules Committee that there is nothing Celler


tion of this commodity on which a forcontroversial in the bill. While that is

Chatham Javits


eign subsidy has been paid. quite true as to the bill in its present Cooley Kelly, N. Y. Sheehan

There is no test as to what shall be form under this resolution, several Coudert


considered injury, how material the inMembers have asked that I call atten


jury shall have to be, or anything else, Davis, Tenn. Lane

Smith, Va. tion to the fact that there is a contro- Dingeli Lanham


so that if we adopt this amendment it versial committee amendment which will


will be entirely discretionary with the be offered in due course. Dollinger McCarthy Teague

Treasury Department as to whether a Dolliver

McConnell Tuck Mr. Speaker, I know of no one who

Donohue McVey


countervailing duty shall be imposed. opposes the rule itself. I hope the House Donovan Mack, III. Wainwright

Let me make it clear that although will adopt House Resolution 327 so that Durham Miller, Calif. Weichel

the Treasury Department does favor the Evins the House Membership will have the op

Miller, N. Y. Westland

amendment that is to be offered by the Morano

Wheeler portunity to consider this bill on the


gentleman from Pennsylvania, yet it is merits.


Moulder Wigglesworth not, on the other hand, insisting upon it. As to the controversial measure, I un

Granahan Multer


There is also a very serious question

Mumma Young derstand that this particular measure Hand


as to whether the amendment should be refers to countervailing duties, where if

considered as part of a simplification bill. there are in some other country two or

The SPEAKER. On this rollcall 333

In my judgment it would be well for the more standards of currency and the rate Members have answered to their names,

House to turn down this amendment so of exchange on the market available for a quorum.

that we can maintain the customs simexport goods in any such country is.

By unanimous consent, further pro

plification bill as a simplification bill. lower than the normal rate of exchange ceedings under the call were dispensed

I have taken so much of the gentleexisting in that country, the Secretary with,

man's time only because of the fact we of the Treasury is authorized to impose

will not have time for a general discuscertain countervailing duties; and that CUSTOMS SIMPLIFICATION ACT OF sion of this amendment during the then, in order to secure relief, any in


amendment stage of the bill, under the dustry must prove that it has actually

rule we have before us. It would be well sustained injury.

Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, when the

for us to give consideration to this While asking for the adoption of the point of no quorum was made, I had

amendment at this time and also during rule, I reserve, as far as I am concerned, reached the point of indicating that I

general debate. the right to oppose the committee knew of no one who opposed the rule,

Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. amendment on that score. and I hoped that the House would adopt

Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BYRNES of Wisconsin. Mr. House Resolution 327 so that the mem

Mr. SCOTT. I yield to the gentleSpeaker, will the gentleman yield? bership would have an opportunity to

woman from Massachusetts. Mr. SCOTT. I yield. consider the bill on its merits, and I had

Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I Mr. BYRNES of Wisconsin. I think it just raised the point that I had been

have received a great many telegrams is unfortunate that both in the Ways informed that there was one controver

and letters and telephone calls regardand Means Committee and also in the sial committee amendment, on which

ing this provision of the bill, and an inappearances before the Rules Committee there is considerable difference of opin

creasing number are coming in, a great there was some misunderstanding as to ion, having to do with certain counterthe status of this amendment that will vailing duties, and I now yield to the

many protests. I do hope this provision

will be eliminated from the bill. It is be offered as a committee amendment. gentlemen from Wisconsin (Mr. BYRNES]. We were told in the committee, for in. Mr. BYRNES

very dangerous, I think. Messages have of Wisconsin. Mr.

come from boot and shoe industries and stance, that those who had originally Speaker, as I suggested previously, there

from labor in various industries. The been opposed to this amendment had was in the committee, and I think there

following is one of the telegrams I have withdrawn their opposition. Acting was before the Committee on Rules, a

received from northern industries. upon this assurance, the Ways and

Ways and misunderstanding with respect to one Means Committee adopted the amend- particular amendment that was offered

BOSTON, MASS., July 13, 1953. ment. I should add that it was not in the Committe on Ways and Means by

Hon. EDITH NOURSE ROGERS, adopted in the committee by any unani- the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr.

House of Representatives, mous vote, as I think the author of the EBERHARTER). The impression was left

Washington, D. C.:

Understand H. R. 5877, Customs Simplifiamendment and its proponents in the in the Committee on Ways and Means, committee will agree.

cation Act, will be voted today. Urge you and I believe also before the Committee

vote against adoption of countervailing and It also is my understanding that before on Rules, that there was no particular

on Rules, that there was no particular reimport duty amendments sponsored by the Rules Committee it was suggested objection to this amendment. That is Eberhart and know which would be a serious that there was no opposition to this not a fact. There is considerable ob blow to New England textile mills and emamendment. There is very strong oppo- jection. This amendment is objected

This amendment is objected ployment in textile centers. sition to this amendment. to, and quite vigorously, in some quar

WILLIAM F. SULLIVAN, ters, It relates to the matter of coun

President, Northern Textile Association. tervailing duties and the obligation of Mr. EBERHARTER. Mr. Speaker, will CALL OF THE HOUSE

the Treasury Department to impose the gentleman yield? Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. countervailing duties in those cases Mr. SCOTT. I yield to the gentleman Speaker, I make the point of order that where a country grants a subsidy or a from Pennsylvania. a quorum is not present.

bounty or a grant of some kind in con Mr. EBERHARTER. I just want to The SPEAKER. Obviously a quorum nection with the exportation of some advise the House membership that the is not present.

item into this country. Under the pres Treasury Department recommends the Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Speaker, I move ent law it is mandatory under section

ent law it is mandatory under section inclusion of this provision in the bill, a call of the House.

303 of the Tariff Act of 1930 that the and I quote this language appearing on A call of the House was ordered, Treasury Department shall impose a the letterhead of the Treasury Depart

ment, Washington, D. C., signed by an to wreck the nut industry throughout That is to prevent just such matters as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury: the entire United States. If we are go this from being offered. If it were an

For the present the Treasury Department ing to permit them to subsidize crops open rule, then everybody, including mybelieves that the one addition to H. R. 5106 with ECA money to bring such crops into self, would have some amendment they which it would now recommend is an amend this country and undersell American wanted to offer that would give relief to ment to section 303 of the tariff act provide produced crops, we will have nothing or assist some industry in their particuing that countervailing duties should be im- but chaos ahead of us.

lar area. So we have to have a closed posed only where injury exists or is threat

Mr. SCOTT. Of course, I can say to rule. But here we have a modified closed ened to a domestic industry. The Department suggests consideration of the enclosed the gentleman that some people think rule, giving the Ways and Means Comdraft amendment to section 303 of the tariff we have been subsidizing nuts for 20 mittee an opportunity to offer these paract which would accomplish this purpose. years.

ticular amendments that are sponsored We have the positive recommendation

Mr. SCUDDER. But, we are inter- by the committee. Under those circumested in these nuts.

stances I think it would be unwise for of the Secretary of the Treasury. It is the exact language also, I may say, which gentleman is correct in saying that we

Mr. SCOTT. But I do not think the the House to follow that up by adopting

such an amendment which is highly the Treasury Department submitted in this instance. I may also say that this have to oppose the rule. I think the controversial.

rule should be adopted, and if Members When the matter was considered bevery provision was contained in the bill do not like the committee amendment, fore the Rules Committee. I did not know

the import or the implications of this There was no objection whatsoever to it they can vote it down.

I yield to the gentleman from North particular amendment that was to be at that time. I see no reason whatsoCarolina [Mr. JONAS).

offered here. I only learned of it this ever for any objection to it at this time.

Mr. JONAS of North Carolina. Mr. morning. This amendment, as I unNo representations since we passed that measure in October 1951 have been made Speaker, I rise to associate myself with derstand, really would be implementing measure in October 1951 have been made the remarks of my colleage, the gentle- a bill which the gentleman from Pennin objection to the provision's being

man from California [Mr. PHILLIPS). I sylvania [Mr. EBERHARTER) had previouscontained in a law. May I add that the understand that the textile industry, ly introduced, sometime last month. It same provision is contained in the Anti- which is vitally interested in this mat- would be very far-reaching in its effect. dumping Act. If the people in industry in this country want to operate under the ter, was given no opportunity to be I think, for the benefit of the House, I theory of tariff, this is exactly what this heard before the committee. On a mat- might call attention to it so the Mem

ter that is as vital as this, certainly I bers will understand it. The substance amendment does.

Mr. SCOTT. I thank the gentleman. think they should be given an opportu- of that amendment, as I understand it Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Speaker, will the nity to be heard before the matter is and if the_gentleman from Pennsylconcluded.

vania [Mr. EBERHARTER) does not agree, gentleman yield?

Mr. SCOTT. I thank the gentleman. I should like to know it-is to amend Mr. SCOTT. I yield to the gentleman

The SPEAKER. The time of the gen- section 303 which is, in effect, a form of from California. tleman has expired.

an antidumping act. The language is as Mr. PHILLIPS. In order to make

Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield follows: this brief, may I associate myself with myself 10 minutes.

Such countervailing duties shall be imthe gentleman from Wisconsin in his

Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from posed only after the Secretary of the Treasstatements and say to the gentleman

Pennsylvania [Mr. Scott), I believe,

SCOTT), I believe, ury shall determine, after such investigation from Pennsylvania (Mr. EBERHARTER]

stated that this is a closed rule, with as he deems necessary, that an industry in that he is in error that this has always the exception that the committee may

the United States is being or is likely to be been non-controversial. There was ob- offer certain amendments. This is not injured for his prevented or retarded from jection to in the past. We in agricul

of an unusual procedure, except in the matture have always felt that this could be ter, I believe, of the excess-profits tax chandise of the class or kind in respect of

into the United States of articles of merdamaging. The commodity groups rule. We did not follow that. The rule, which the bounty or grant is paid or beasked for hearings on it before the com

as was explained, makes in order a bill stowed. mittee that these points might be for the simplification of the customs brought out. We have felt so not only law. It is a very technical and a very

At first glance I did not understand in agriculture in regard to the basic complicated bill, and has to do mostly

that it included agricultural products. commodities but with finished products. with administrative matters. However,

Mr. EBERHARTER. Mr. Speaker, This could, in effect, and if I had the as has already been pointed out, the tes

will the gentleman yield to me? time I could develop this thought, com- timony before the Committee on Rules

Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentlepletely destroy the textile industry. In

was largely to the effect that this being man from Pennsylvania. other words, it is a serious enough mat

a simplification of the collection of cus Mr. EBERHARTER. I may say to the ter to make me feel, as the gentleman toms type of legislation, that there was gentleman from Mississippi that I am from Wisconsin does, that we should not

no controversy about it; but it has de- only the front man for this amendment. adopt it as we are proposing to do veloped that there is considerable con- This is an amendment suggested and today with the thought that it is non- troversy, at least about one of the recommended by the Treasury Departcontroversial because it is highly con- amendments which is proposed to be ment, by the Secretary of the Treastroversial and could be destructive.

offered under the procedure provided by ury; so that while I am officially the Mr. SCOTT. In further reference to the rule. That particular amendment, sponsor of this amendment, I want it what the gentleman has said, there is no as has been observed, is the amendment understood by the membership on both objection to the rule or to the bill as which I understand is being sponsored by sides that it represents the recommenit is before us now so far as any of us the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. dation of and is the amendment as have heard, but there is objection on EBERHARTER). I think this amendment drawn exactly by the Treasury Departthe part of some Members to the com poses a very serious question. It is a ment. mittee amendment.

matter which statements here show was Mr. COLMER. If the gentleman will I yield to the gentleman from Cal- not thoroughly considered by the Com- permit me, I should like to congratulate ifornia [Mr. SCUDDER).

mittee on Ways and Means. In fact, I him as a member of the minority selected Mr. SCUDDER. As far as the rule is understand from one member of the to sponsor an amendment by the adconcerned, I believe there should be committee, and a very influential mem ministration. some objection to it because the only ber, that possibly it was not thoroughly

Mr. EBERHARTER. I will admit that source of amendment would be from the understood at the time. I think it would the Treasury Department is absolutely committee itself. According to the in- be very unwise when we get into the formation we have, the committee has consideration of this legislation, and that right in this instance. Experience has an amendment which would be very amendment is offered, to adopt the taught us that one can be right as well detrimental to American industry. A amendment under these peculiar cir- as wrong. few years ago, it was reported that one cumstances, these extraordinary circum Mr. COLMER. I congratulate the of the Mediterranean countries shipped stances. Of course, on a matter of this gentleman, but even with all the love enough subsidized nuts into this country sort, you have to have a closed rule. and respect I have for him, it does not

change the situation so far as I am gerous and should be defeated. I shall States say they cannot do; that is, to concerned. vote against it myself.

subsidize and thereby circumvent the Mr. EBERHARTER. Will the gentle Mr. COLMER. It, of course, would laws as they apply to dutiable goods man yield to me once more?

affect the wool industry in his section, brought into this country. Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentle the cotton industry, the tung oil, and Mr. COLMER. The gentleman has man from Pennsylvania. others.

made a very valuable contribution to Mr. EBERHARTER. Is the gentle Mr. FISHER. The gentleman is ex the possible defeat of this amendment man speaking on the rule or on the bill actly correct; it will affect hundreds of when it comes up for consideration. now? The gentleman wishes the rule industries all over the country. If the Mr. RILEY. Mr. Speaker, will the to be adopted, does he not?

gentleman will permit, I should like to gentleman yield? Mr. COLMER. I am speaking now pursue this just a little further.

Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentlebecause I realize from past experience Reference was made a moment ago to man from South Carolina. that this perhaps will be the only op these subsidies practiced by certain for Mr. RILEY. I wish to commend the portunity I will have to speak on the eign countries. I have in mind two ex gentleman from Mississippi and the genamendment.

amples. I am particularly familiar with tleman from Texas on the statements Mr. EBERHARTER. But the gentle

the situation in Uruguay and Argentina they have made. Any amendment that man is speaking on the merits, the essen in this regard. Both of them, I think, is as far reaching as this and has the tials of the bill?

have subsidized the export of wool and results that this one will have should be Mr. COLMER. The merits of that wool tops, wool tops being raw wool given further study to see where we are particular matter.

which has been processed to a certain going before we vote on it in the House. Mr. EBERHARTER. And it has plenty point. That enabled those people to As a great deliberative body I do not of merit.

come in here and sell below the usual think we should take anything at its face Mr. COLMER. So far as the rule is

price they otherwise would sell for after value without studying it and arriving concerned I am for the rule; I think the paying the tariff. It put scores and scores at a conclusion as to what will be the rule ought to be adopted, but I do not of people in the wool-tops industry of effect of it. As I understand it, the Presthink the amendment should be adopted. this country out of business. Thousands ident has considerable power in refer

Mr. MCCORMACK, Mr. Speaker, will and thousands of unemployed workers ence to this and he can use that authorthe gentleman yield?

have been walking the streets for 3 years ity; then the Congress can make a deMr. COLMER. I yield.

because their plants were forced to close. liberate study and reach a conclusion in Mr. McCORMACK. I feel pretty That has been going on for several years. regard to the matter, much the same way that the gentleman It is a very serious thing. It has resulted Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, will the from Mississippi does on this amend

in a severe hardship to American wool gentleman yield? ment, that it would be unwise to adopt growers.

Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentleit. None of us know how far-reaching As I see it, this amendment would sim man from Pennsylvania. it is; there have been no hearings on ply have the effect of legalizing what is

Mr. SCOTT. I want to clarify one it, and I was amazed and astonished made illegal under section 303 of the thing about the Treasury Department when my good friend from Pennsylvania Tariff Act of 1930.

draft. As the gentleman will note, this [Mr. EBERHARTER] read a portion of a

Mr. COLMER. And further encour controversial amendment is not in the letter received from the Treasury De aging such actions. We should not do it.

bill at all. The reason it is not in the partment which recommended this

Mr. FISHER. I agree with the gen

bill is because while the provision was amendment. It was hard for me to be

tleman; it would encourage them, and, contained in one of the Treasury drafts lieve, because I remember during the even more, would appear to put the

it was omitted from the bill by action of past 20 years the Democratic Party fosstamp of legality upon an act which has

certain responsible members of the matered and nourished the wool business.

actually circumvented the laws of the jority party. It was later reintroduced Boston is the great wool center of the United States. Now, it will help Peron,

and carried by a 1 vote margin. world, particularly of the United States, it will help Uruguay, it will help certain

Mr. EBERHARTER, Mr. Speaker, will yet here we have the present adminisother people where they want American

the gentleman yield? tration recommending an amendment dollars and where they are willing to

Mr. SCOTT. It is not in the bill. Let that would be harmful not only to the subsidize these industries to get them to

me finish my statement. I would like to whole industry, but in particular to the

dump their products in this country and finish my thought. wool industry in Boston. sell below cost of production in order to

Mr. EBERHARTER. I do not think I want the RECORD to show that during get those American dollars and get cer

the gentleman means to give misinforthe last 20 years we Democrats gave

tain advantages in international trade mation to the House.
proper protection to the wool industry.
as a result. It is not fair competition.

Mr. SCOTT. I do not.
Most of the big financial supporters of
Fair competition is where all are treated

Mr. EBERHARTER. I have listened the wool industry are members of the alike; yet here you have foreign coun

to quite a bit of misinformation in the Republican Party, and I am astonished tries subsidizing their exporters to en

last few minutes. that one of the first things attempted by able them to come in and impose a sys

The SPEAKER. The time of the genthe Republican administration is to

tem of unfair competition on American tleman from Mississippi has expired. sponsor an amendment which would industry.

Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield seriously impair the wool industry of

Since 1949 there has been an increase myself 2 additional minutes. Boston and New England.

in imports of wool tops to this country Mr. SCOTT. I appreciate the remarks Mr. COLMER. Permit me to say in by more than 1,000 percent. This was

of the gentleman from Massachusetts reply to my friend from Massachusetts

due to the subsidy given to the exporters but I wonder why he said he favors Boston-the great wool city, that this by their governments. Section 303, what he states is the policy on the part would not only affect wool but it would which the Eberharter amendment would of his leadership and why in that case also affect every other commodity and

virtually destroy, protects American in- he seemed to be critical of the gentleman every other article under similar circum

dustry against such unfair competition from Pennsylvania [Mr. EBERHARTER), stances.

by requiring countervailing duties—in who has my sympathies, in view of the I promised to yield to my friend from the amount of the export subsidy-to be statement made by the distinguished Texas [Mr. FISHER), who was first on imposed. So I think the gentleman is minority leader. his feet.

absolutely right and sound in his oppo Mr. EBERHARTER. I do not know Mr. FISHER. I have listened with sition to this amendment. I do not

I do not where the gentleman from Pennsylvania much interest to what the gentleman think it is very well understood, or it [Mr. Scott] got any idea this was passed said about the amendment which the would not have been brought here. It by a close vote. Certainly I do not think gentleman from Pennsylvania proposes seems very clear to me that it should not he knows anything at all about what to offer as a committee amendment. I be the purpose of the Committee on Ways happened in the committee. My opinthink it has already been demonstrated and Means or of this congress to at- ion is altogether different as to the narby the expressions from both sides of tempt to bail Mr. Peron and others out rowness of the vote and the difference the aisle that that amendment is dan- and legalize what the laws of the United between those opposing it and those

favoring it. We had hearings on this and extended hearings so that the people turning back the menace which now conparticular provision 2 years ago. It was can come in and show what its effect is fronts the free world. Not only must recommended 2 years ago by the Treas and how disastrous its passage might be. our leadership be able, discerning leadury Department, it was accepted and a Mr. NICHOLSON. Mr. Speaker, will ership, but above all it must be coubill passed in this House without any the gentleman yield?

rageous. It must be a leadership of faith, votes against it. No representations Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentle- of hope, of idealism, of courage, and of have been made to the committee and man from Massachusetts.

strength. as far as I know, it was recommended Mr. NICHOLSON. I understand that The policies of the past 5 years are now again this year in public hearings. It you could, under this new provision or commencing to show their beneficial rewas adopted in the committee and is proposed amendment, send cotton to a sults. Our policies are based on a behere as a committee amendment.

foreign country, raw cotton, on which lief that countless millions behind the There have been some statements there would be no duty, and they could Iron Curtain want freedom, and in the made that are altogether foreign to the make it into cloth and send it back to Communist-dominated countries they subject. It was my intention, Mr. the United States, the only additional want independence. Speaker, to debate this issue in general cost being labor on the product, which Merely kind words will not be enough. debate. My theory is, and I think the would drive out most of our cotton mills, As a matter of fact, merely kind words theory that has always been accepted is, not alone the woolen end of the business. might result in disappointment, disilluthat the tariff, whether you are a high I think that is pretty generally under- sionment, and loss of hope for outside tariff advocate or a low tariff advocate, stood.

aid. is asked for the purpose of protecting The SPEAKER. The time of the gen The position of the United States has American industry. If you read this tleman from Mississippi has expired. been consistent. We have not recogamendment which will be offered as a Mr. COLMER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 nized the absorption into the Soviet committee amendment it says that, as to minutes to the gentleman from Massa- Union of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. every industry affected by subsidies in a chusetts [Mr. McCORMACK].

Our consistent position is that the foreign country which is injurious or Mr. MCCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I people of Poland should regain their inlikely to be injurious or retarded in its ask unanimous consent to speak out of

dependence and freedom and decide establishment, the Secretary manda order.

their own form of government through torially must impose a countervailing The SPEAKER. Is there objection to

a free ballot. This same policy applies duty. What is the matter with that? the request of the gentleman from to other Communist-dominated counMr. DORN of South Carolina. Mr. Massachusetts ?

tries, with a united Germany in which Speaker, will the gentleman yield?

There was no objection.

the people can express their will through Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentle Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, it a free ballot. man from South Carolina.

is not only a marked coincidence, but forMr. DORN of South Carolina. Mr. tunate and important, that the Big sents itself now. The eyes of the world

It is apparent that opportunity preSpeaker, I would like to compliment the Three Foreign Ministers, Secretary

are upon the conferences that are being gentleman from Mississippi on bringing Dulles, of America; Lord Salisbury, of

engaged in to see whether or not the this matter to the attention of the House. Great Britain; and Georges Bidault, of

opportunity is grasped and the advanA lot of us represent great textile and France, are meeting at the present time.

France, are meeting at the present time. tages that exist developed and exploited. woolen industries sections. That hap- For this meeting takes place while sig

In my opinion, the best defense is an pens to be the principal industry in my nificant events are occurring in Com

effective offense, whether in actual war, district and in the whole State of South munist-dominated satellite nations and

a so-called cold war, or in the war of Carolina, and I understand the same is even in the Soviet Union itself. Out of

the minds. This is the time for affirmatrue in some sections of Massachusetts. the meeting should come a marked re

tive, not negative, policies and actions. Our people have not been informed about duction in any areas of differences that

As the representative of our country this amendment. They do not know the exist between nations opposed to com

sits in these conferences, I think I speak repercussions and the implications at munism and who want to be free from

the mind and the heart and the sentiall. All they want is to be heard on this Communist domination or control. I

ment and the voice of all of my colmatter, and I regret that the amendment assume there will be an evaluation of

leagues, whether Democratic or Repubthat comes up as a committee amendpresent conditions in the world, and par

lican, when I say that in the policies ment, is here without a thorough air- ticularly behind the Iron Curtain, and

ticularly behind the Iron Curtain, and they might establish that will bring about ing of all sides of the question as to the establishment of unity and of affir

a peaceful world, that will drive back whom it will affect and how. I compli- mative policy and action to take advan

communism and bring liberation to peoment, again, the gentleman from Mis tage of the tensions in the ranks of ples now dominated, both parties and the sissippi.

communism. Above all, it is to eval. people of America will support them. Mr. FISHER. Mr. Speaker, will the uate properly the meaning of the inci

Mr. SCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 gentleman yield? dents behind the Iron Curtain, the desire

minute to the gentleman from Illinois Mr. COLMER. I yield to the gentle- of millions of persons to be free men and

[Mr. JONAS). man from Texas.

women, and the great moral origin that Mr. FISHER. The gentleman from influences that desire and is the begin

Mr. JONAS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker,

I take this minute for the purpose of Pennsylvania, I think, very frankly ex ning of that desire.

inquiring from the gentleman from plained the situation here when he said I assume policies will be agreed upon he did not realize there was opposition consistent with the strong desires of the Pennsylvania if he can tell us whether

there was a hearing relative to the merwhen his amendment was offered in com people of Poland, Lithuania, Czechoslomittee, and therefore there were no hear- vakia, and other Communist-dominated

vakia, and other communist-dominated its or demerits of the Eberharter amendings on this particular issue. As a mat nations to be free in accordance with the ment, and if there were no hearings, ter of fact, there was tremendous oppo will of the people of those countries, certainly I for one would be opposed to sition as is evidenced here this after through a free and secret ballot, as well supporting that amendment because it

carries with it such far-reaching implinoon. The American Wool Growers As as a free, united Germany. For it is my

cations. What is the answer? Were sociation made a formal request for a opinion that this is the time for Amerfull-dress hearing on this issue in the ica, Britain, France, and other free na

there any hearings or any data considevent it should be considered by the tions to present a united front based on

ered or was nothing said about the committee. They had no opportunity to strength and not on weakness; on faith,

strength and not on weakness; on faith, amendment during the hearings? be heard. This is not an amendment, not despair; on confidence, not fear, to

Mr. SCOTT. It is my understanding, actually, pertaining to customs simplifi the Soviets so there will be no misun

after consultation with a member of the cation; it is an amendment to the Tariff derstanding as to where the free world

derstanding as to where the free world committee, that there were no hearings Act of 1930, an entirely different subject. stands.

nor was the question raised until the It goes to the root of a very vital issue, This is the time when the leaders of matter came up in executive session. and it certainly seems to me, if it is go the free world must be far-seeing, con

Mr. JONAS of Illinois. Then this is ing to be pursued and considered, it structive, and above all, courageous.

an amendment of original impression should go back to the committee and The leaders of the free world must give here without any hearing whatsoever there it should be the subject of open such leadership if we are to succeed in on its merits?

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