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consisting of Lord President Inglis, and Lords Deas, Mure, and Shand. Some English cases on the law of libel were

THE LUNACY LAWS. quoted in argument, but the court based its judgment upon the special character of its own proceedings. Tre recent case of Nowell v. Williams has recalled Indeed, it might have been better if no reference had attention to the subject of the Lunacy Laws so far been made to English law, for Lord Deas is reported in as these authorize the forcible detention, without the Scotsman as curiously misrepresenting our proceed- public inquiry, of persons alleged to be lunatics. ings in a case of libel. The principle of the Scotch It is not, we think, too much to say that, if the decision, so far as we are competent to disentangle it, is

law had been contrived for the express purpose of to the following effect. The right of publishing legal facilitating the wrongful imprisonment of sane persons proceedings is merely a recognition of the fact that courts who, from whatever cause, had become obnoxious to of justice are open to the public. Whatever reporters their own relatives, it could hardly have been more achear in open court, that they may publish, subject, of curately adapted to that end. It is not a very unusual course, to certain admitted exceptions; and their reports phenomenon to find an heir who considers that his anwill be protected by the plea of privilege. But news cestor is keeping him too long out of his inheritance, papers have no such right to publish ex parte proceedings and who would not be sorry to find some means of at. in an action, before they have been made public in open least securing that it shall not be permanently diverted court, and at a stage when the other side has no from him by the marriage, testacy, or conveyance of the opportunity of being heard in reply or explanation. present owner. If the latter should be, as is not unfre. So stated, the decision appears to be, not only quently the case, a somewhat testy old gentleman, the good sense, but also in harmony with the practice thing is done. Or, again, the memory of a good many of English law. It is difficult to imagine how cir of our readers will carry them back to the case of a cumstances identical in every respect could arise in this young man, of considerable property and very extravacountry. But if any one, whether newspaper proprietor gant habits, who was incarcerated on a charge of or party to an action, were to venture to publish a state- lunacy, which, when it came to be investigated ment of claim containing matter primâ facie libellous, before a jury, proved to be the most baseless of he would gain little by pleading privilege. There is, inventions. True, in this case the alleged lunatic indeed, a class of English cases strongly corroborative was in a position to require the solution of the. of this opinion, which do not appear to have been cited question of his sanity or insanity by verdict, because before the Scotch court. These all have to do with the it was necessary, for the purposes of the incarcera

, by

chancery reports. So far back as Roach v. Garvan (2 he was fortunate enough to be in communication

Dick. 794) it was held a contempt for a party to publish with a legal adviser possessed of sufficient deterhis brief before the suit camo on. In Vernon v. Vernon mination and energy to insist upon his rights. But (19 W. R. 404) the plaintiff, having himself supplied a it would be as absurd to defend the present state of the statement of his case to a local newspaper, moved that the law, on the ground that it failed in this case to do a newspaper proprietor should be committed for pub. permanent injustice, as to adduce the fact that other lishing adverse comments. Bacon, V.C., refused to persons have managed to escape from the asylums to make any order in the matter. But the nearest case which they have been consigned as a defence for their is that of Cheltenha v. Swansea Wagon Company original incarceration. It is only too well known to (17 W. R. 463, L. R. 8 Eq. 580), in which Malins, those who have made it their business to look into this V.C., held it to be contempt of court for a newspaper question that persons under detention, rightly or wrongly, to publish, before it was heard, a petition for the as lunatics, in so-called private asylums, are not in winding up of a company, which contained grave general informed of their rights, and that should the charges against the directors.

keeper of the asylum and the person at whose instance: the alleged lunatic is detained—that is to say, the two

persons most interested in prolonging the detentionAN INTERESTING POINT on the law of horses, not yet, desire to keep him in ignorance of the safe guards whicb so far as we know, decided by any reported English the law has thrown round his liberty, such as they are, case, has recently been adjudicated upon by the Supreme no efficient means for preventing them from doing so are Court of Maine. Who is responsible for the cost of provided by the law as it now stands. Once let the medicine and veterinary surgeon's attendance on a horse alleged lunatic find his way into the private asylum, and. which has been hired and falls sick during the hiring ? his chance of communication of any sort with the world According to Pothier (Louage, $ 129) if a horse which is without depends—in the absence of such a combination lent for a journey falls sick, the expenses of the treat of fortuitous circumstances as is seldom seen and can ment must be paid by the lender. So the American Court never be relied on-entirely upon the good-will of the held, and Barrows, J., in delivering judgment, is reported very people who, if he be really sane, or even of doubtful to have explained the reasons for his decision as follows sanity, are vitally interested in preventing any such [We are not responsible for the judge's English]: communication. -"Upon whom, then, as between the hirer and the But, it may be said, the law so carefully guards owner, should the expense of keeping and caring for the the liberty of the individual in the first instance defendant's horse which became diseased and sick that it may fairly be presumed that no

one is while in the hirer's hands' fall ? Up to the time when detained as a lunatic whose conduct has not, at any rate, he fell sick it was the hirer's business to furnish him at afforded strong grounds for the belief that he is of. his own proper expense with meat for his work. But unsound mind. Let us see what is the protection how was it when he could no longer lawfully use him afforded in this respect. Two medical men, neither of under his contract ? Unless the horse was disabled whom need have, or ordinarily in fact have, any special through some fault or neglect of the hirer, the owner is acquaintance with the subject, call upon the patient, the one who bears the burdens occasioned by his failure with whom they need not have, and frequently have not, to perform the work for which he was hired, and among any previous acquaintance whatever, not at his own them would be the expense of the care and cure of the instance, but at that of some third person who may have, animal-an expense which enures directly to his benefit. and not seldom has, very strong grounds for desiring There would be good reason for holding that in such a the lunacy of his relative; they may be, and generally case the hirer is the agent of the owner to procure such are, carefully primed by their client with the questions reasonable and necessary sustenance and farrier's attend. likely to bring out the “ delusions"—in other words, ta ance as might be required until the animal could be got excite the irritability-of the victim, who may be, and. home.”

almost invariably is, utterly ignorant of the object of

as

their visits, and thus taken completely off his guard ; if, of his district. Whatever may have been its origin, as the result of a single interview so conducted, the however, the covenant to which we refer held its ground patient is provoked to a hasty expression, or a movement for some time, and it is still to be found (in a slightly of irritation, or if, from whatever motive, he expresses modified shape) in a form of agricultural lease given in what can be tortured into an assent to any of the alleged the last edition of a standard modern collection of predelusions (which may be, for all the doctor knows, cedents. perfectly true, and not "delusions” at all), the success.

The advantages of defining in the lease the obligations fal operator retires, with an easy conscience, to put his

of the tenant as to cultivation and his rights on quitting signature to a document, on the faith of which, without

are obvious, and it is probable that before the middle of any opportunity of meeting it, without even any com

the present century this course was frequently adopted. munication to him of its existence, the person therein In the precedent of a lease of a farm in Norfolk, given in certified to be of unsound mind may be summarily the appendix to Platt on Leases, published in 1847, arrested and imprisoned for the term of his natural (apparently a form adopted on a large estate), the covenant life! We are aware that a select committee of the

as to cultivation binds the lessee to cultivate “accordHouse of Commons some years ago reported that they ing to the four-course system of husbandry practised in had not been able to discover any cases of injustice Norfolk, as nearly as the size of the several closes of ander the operation of these laws; but that very fact land will admit (that is to say), shall yearly cause one goes far to prove the inefficiency of the means pro- of the said shifts to be properly summer tilled and sown vided for the investigation of the question. If a case

with turnips, to be twice well hoed and preserved for a like that of Dr. Nowell could be brought to light, as this

crop," and so on as to all the shifts. Provision is also has been, as it were by accident, it requires a wonderful

made that the grass seeds to be sown on one division in amount of faith to believe that it really is an isolated

the last year of the lease may be sown by the lessor ; instance and not a type of a very much larger class

that the last year's dung, hay, and straw shall be left, which, for the most part, remain undiscovered and un

and that the lessor sball pay for the threshing and cleanremedied.

ing of the last year's crop, also for the turnips and hay The jury in Dr. Nowell's case appended to their grown in the last year. In Mr. Cooke's book on verdict an expression of opinion that the existing Agricultural Tenancies, published in 1850, there are law to the necessary medical certificates was

given numerous forms of agreement for yearly tenancies insufficient, and they made the absurdly futile

in use, previously to that date, by owners of large estates recommendation that the medical witnesses should in

who were also eminent agriculturalists. In nearly all future, like the witnesses to a will, sign in one another's of these the allowances to be made to the tenant on presence. How that proposed alteration could, under any quitting are carefully specified, and in several the course circumstances, affect the question beneficially to the of cultivation during the tenancy is provided for with alleged lunatic it is not easy to see; we think it will not

more or less minuteness. And in the so-called “landbe difficult to show that its effect, so far as appreciable lord's lease" for a term of years, given in this work—i.e., at all, would be in the opposite direction. But this a form of lease with “ covenants expressly adapted to the opens up a question too long to be dealt with within the security of the landlord "-elaborate provision is made limits of a single article. We have endeavoured, as for the adoption of the four or five-course system briefly as we could, to point out the evil; we hope at an of cultivation; for the duties of the off-going tenant early opportunity to suggest the appropriate remedy. and for the allowances to be made to him on quit

ting; and it is also provided “that no local usage or custom of the country shall have any effect upon the

tenancy created under this lease, but the rights and FARM LEASES.

obligations of the parties hereto shall depend only upon III.

the terms of this indenture and upon the general law.' An indignant agriculturalist of the last generation con

And another form, which is described by this author as cluded a tirade against the lawyers who prepared farm a very good specimen of the ordinary agricultural leases with the remark that they were “just as ignorant lease," prescribes the four-course system, and provides of the practice of agriculture as a Hottentot or à Pata

that the landlord shall pay at a reasonable fodder price gonian.” The observation would have been more just for the hay, straw, and chaff left by the out-going if it had been confined to the early part of the present tenant, also for seeds sown in the last spring of the term, century, when farm leases were comparatively infrequent, and for folding sheep on the clover lays in the last year when few landowners had their common forms of farm

for the benefit of the incoming tenant. We may take it, agreement, and when agricultural leases for large estates therefore, that the ordinary covenants as to cultivawere often prepared in London offices. When Kennedy tion, which a quarter of a century before not unfreand Grainger wrote, in 1828, they referred to the quently simply expressly prescribed as the guide the drawing up of farm leases by professional men in custom of tho country without defining it, had, before London, and ascribed to it an important change which 1850, grown into provisions complete in themselves, and had then recently occurred in the form of cultivation excluding the custom. And as to allowances on quitting covenants. Agricultural customs having, as we saw last it is to be observed that not only were the ordinary week, rapidly sprung up, it became natural that land payments for hay, &c., and for the seeds sown in the last lords should desire expressly to adopt in their formal spring, expressly provided for, but there now appear, for leases the provisions by which, in the absence of stipula- the first time so far as we have observed, in a few of the tion, their tenants would be impliedly bound. But in agreements for yearly tenancies before referred to stead of setting out in the lease, in plain and unambiguous (notably in Lord De Grey's and Mr. Tollemache's terms, the provisions of the custom, it became a common forms), provisions for compensation for draining, clay. practice to stipulate that the land should be farmed ac

ing, and other unexhausted improvements. cording to the custom of the country, or, what is the In order to trace the direction and extent of the same thing, according to the most approved practice of changes which have occurred during the last quarter of a husbandry in the district. This was, of course, inane; century in the provisions of farm leases, so as to come if no provision at all had been made the result would plete our sketch of the history of the subject, probably have been the same. The practice may, to some extent, the best course will be to compare the form of farm have had its origin in the cause to which it was agreement employed thirty years or so ago on the estates ascribed; but a more likely reason was the inde. in Derbyshire of a nobleman, with the form in use with refiniteness of the customs. It would be difficult, be ference to the same estates at a ent date. We select fore Kennedy and Grainger's book was published, for this case as a fair illustration, because the common any landlord to ascertain the precise nature of the custom I forms used on the estates of great noblemen are not

of any

altered without much consideration and wide inquiry, and are seldom in advance of the times. In the form

Reviews. of agreement in use thirty years ago, the tenant was made to agree, with regard to cultivation of the farm,

LEGAL DIARIES. that he would not break up any meadow or old pasture. LEGAL DIARY AND ALMANACK FOR 1880, &c. Edited by land; that he would return to the land two tons of

H. ALAN Scott, Esq., Barrister-at-Law. Waterlow purchased manure for every ton of hay sold which had

Brothers & Layton. grown thereon; and would spread on the land all

This strikes us as a very well arranged and complete manure, &c., made on the premises; and that he would not “ do any injury to any part of the said land by legal diary. The size is convenient and the paper of excessive or irregular ploughing, cropping, or mowing, good quality. Lists are given of counsel practising

in London and of London and country solicitors, or in any other manner” (as to this last matter the agreement was clearly behind the age]. As to allow and, in addition to the other information common to ances on quitting, the agreement provides that the out

these publications, we observe a list of stamp duties on going tenant shall be paid for growing crops of wheat

instruments from 1804 to the present time, and an sown on a summer fallow; for the unconsumed hay,

index to the important statutes from an early period. straw, and fodder of the growth of the preceding sea

The digest of statutes of last session we suppose has son, and for the unexpended manure and compost,

become a recognized part of all these diaries, but the “this payment to be in lieu of all other payments

room it occupies might be better employed. and compensations, notwithstanding any law, custom, The LAWYER'S COMPANION AND DIARY for 1880. Edited or usage to the contrary."

by John THOMPSON, Esq., Barrister-at-Law. Stevens Turning now to the more recent agreement, we find, & Son; Shaw & Sons. in addition to provisions restrictive of the ploughing We have so often noticed the successive issues of this up of old grass land, an absolute prohibition of the sale work that little remains to be said beyond the remark

produce” without the agent's written permis- that the present issue will sustain the reputation of the sion, and a provision that the tenant shall have at least book. one-fifth of the arable land in clover, summer or turnip fallow in every year; that he shall, with the first

General Correspondence. crop of corn after such fallow, sow good clover or other seed, and that he shall not take more than two white crops without a summer or turnip fallow intervening. To CORRESPONDENTS.-— All letters intended for publicaBut it is in respect of the compensation for the outgoing

tion in the Solicitors' Journalmust be authentitenant that the most remarkable change occurs. The

cated by the name of the writer. The Editor cannot simple provision of the old agreement has swollen to a undertake to return MSS. forwarded to him. series of elaborate clauses, occupying nearly as much space as the rest of the agreement, and arranging under

UNDERLEASES. thirteen heads the various subjects in respect of which [To the Editor of the Solicitors' Journal.] compensation may be claimed by the outgoing tenant. Sir,—The recent case of Stocker v. The Planet Build.

The standard precedents of leases in use in our day ing Society (27 W. R. 793, 877), decided by the Master show a like advance in the direction of definite provision of the Rolls, and affirmed on appeal, appears to be one and restriction. Thus in the volume of Davidson's Pre- of very great importance to the owners of leasehold cedents relating to leases, it will be found that in every property. Shortly stated, the point decided is that a form of purely agricultural lease the system of cultivation lessee who has underlet has no power to enter on the to be adopted is specified in more or less detail, and the demised premises for the purpose of fulfilling the tenant is bouud to consume all hay, straw, and root crops lessee's covenants as to repairing, &c., contained in the on the premises. The result to the tonant of the change original lease, even with a view to avoid a threatened from the comparative freedom and indefiniteness of forfeiture by the superior landlord under his proviso for the custom (first impliedly incorporated in his lease re-entry, unless an express authority to enter and do such and then incorporated by express general reference) repairs has been reserved by the underlease. to the definite, inflexible and detailed provisions It has not, I believe, hitherto been usual to reserve of the modern cultivation covenant, has not, so far as any such power or authority in underleases, it being we know, been much observed, but it appears to be little supposed, no doubt, either that the underlessee might be short of a revolution.

trusted to do the repairs, or that the superior landlord would not interfere as long as his rent was paid. But, after the above-mentioned decision, it is clear that any

professional man will incur a very serious responsibility Mr. Jastice Bowen las accepted an invitation from the if he allows his client to grant an underlease which does Western Circuit to dine with the members of the bar mess

not reserve to the underlessor power to enter and fulfil at the Albion tavern, Aldersgate-street, on this day, Satur- the repairing and painting covenants contained in the day, November 29.

original lease, and to charge the underlessee with the The conviction of Fullagar for appropriating to his own

expense. use property intrusted to him for safe custody has been At the same time, it is obvious that such a power might affirmed by the Court for the Consideration of Crown Cases become a source of very serious annoyance to the underReserved.

lessee if the underlessor or his agent were disagreeable; Sir Henry J. S. Maine, K.C.S.I., was entertained at it would be no joke for a man on returning to town dinner at Oxford on Saturday last, on the occasion of after his holiday to find that his house had been rehis resigning the chair of jurisprudence and in recognition painted at his expense in his absence, under the direcof the great services rendered by him to legal study. The dinner, wbicb took place in the ball of All Soul's College,

tion of his landlord's agent, who might be a "decorator." was given by the professors and lectarers in law, and others,

The amount of house property held by underlease in resident

and non-resident, connected with the teaching of London and its neighbourhood is so vast that it would law at Oxford. The Regius Professor of Civil Law (Mr.

be very desirable if those members of the profession Bryce) presided, and there were also present Lord Sel

who are concerned in its management could come to borne, the Right Hon. Mountagne Bernard ; Dr. Clark,

some understanding as to the best means of providing Regios Professor of Civil Law at Cambridge; Dr. Stubbs, for the point above referred to. And I venture to Regius Professor of Modern History ; Sir Travers Twiss trouble you with these lines in the hope that they may Q.C., Mr. Horace Davey, Q.C. (counsel to the Univer. draw attention to the subject. sity), Sir Matthew Ridley, Dr. Tristram, and others.

CONVEYANCER.

Law Student's Journal.

Southall, s.

Walter, C. B.
Soutter, H. W

Ward, F. C.
Spicer, S. T. W.

Ward, R. H.
INCORPORATED LAW SOCIETY.

Spofforth, F.

Webb, W. W.
FINAL EXAMINATION.

Stewart, M., B.A.

Whitmore, W. W., B.A. Stott, C. H.

Whitworth, J. A list of those gentlemen who passed their final Strachan, W.

Wild, T. examination in November last.

Stuart, R. E.

Wilkinson, W. C.
Alcock, E., B.A,
Holmes, R., jun.

Suter, J. E.

Wilkinson, W. H.
Alderman, E. H.
Horne, F. W.

Sweet, J. L.

Williams, F. D.
Allison, W., jun.
Horsfield, A. R.

Todd, W. H.

Williams, T. E.
Applin, V. A.
Huelin, E., B.A.

Topham, G. C.

Wilson, E. H.
Asleton, W. B.
Hussey, W.

Turner, F. W. T.

Wilson, E. T.
Aspinall, A. H.
Hyde, R.

Vakeel, H. N.

Woodhouse, J.
Atkinson, G. E.
Jenkyn, H. 0.

Wallis, R. B.

Yeoman, W. J. Ayers, E. T.

Jennings, F. J. Bailey, N. C. Jennings, J. T.

COUNCIL OF LEGAL EDUCATION.
Barret, M.

Jonas, A. S.
Beaumont, Jas.
Jones, J.

MICHAELMAS EDUCATIONAL TERM, 1879.
Benson, R. de G.
Keighley, H. G.

Regulations for the Examination of Students on the Subjects
Bidder, C. F.
Kerby, A. W.

of the Professors Lectures. Biggs, S. T. Lacey, W. E. F.

In December next there will be four examinations, one in Bird, W. B. M. Lake, W. M.

the subject of the lectures given by each professor, open Blight, J. P. Lawrence, T. R.

(subject, as hereinafter mentioned), to all students who have Boardman, J. H. Leaver, T. D.

during the year attended the lectures of any of tha proBowling, J. Lee, W.

fessors, but no student will be admitted to the examination Bradfield, A. W. Leeman, F., B.A.

in the subjects of the lectures of any professor unless he Brankston, R. Lesley, H. W.

shall have attended at least two-thirds of the lectures given Bromley, F. W. Lewis, B.

during the year by such professor. No student will be Bryden, J. Lilley, C. E.

admitted to more than two examinations; and no student Budd, A., B.A.

who shall have obtained a studentship will be admitted to Lilley, H. L. Bann, A. E.

any such examination. Lloyd, R. E.

After the examinations the following prizes will, on Calder, C. M. Loring, N.

the recommendation of the committee, be given (that is to Carter, R. Lowndes, F. A.

say): Chapman, T. T. Lumb, G. D.

To the students who shall have passed the best exam. Charles, P.J. McMillin, J. J.

ination in the subjects of the lectures of each professor :Chilcott, R. N., B.A. Mallam, T. W.

First prize, £50"; second prize, £25; third prize, £15 ; Child, W. C. Marshall, H.

fourth prize, £10. And a first and second prize of £70 Cholmeley, L. C., B.A. Mellersh, T. B.

and £30 respectively, to the students who obtain the Collins, T. Miller, J. D.

greatest aggregate number of marks in the examination in Corrie, A. W. Morris, S. M.

the subjects of the lectures given by any two of the proCraighead, R. W.

fessors.
Morrison, W. T.
Crook, J.
Murray, J. P., B.A.

No student will be entitled to more than one prize, bat
Cross, W.C. H.
Naden, J.

a student will receive the prize of the highest value to Cullen, Thos.

which he shall appear to be entitled. Neale, T. B.

The committee will not he obliged to recommend any of Dadley, Wm. New, G.

the above prizes to be awarded if the result of the examiDavies, T. L., B.A. Nicholson, E. F.

nation be such as, in their opinion, will not justify such Davis, J. Ollard, A. R.

reoommendation. Dickinson, F. D. Oram, A.

The examinations will take place at Lincolo's-inn Hall, Dickinson, W. 0. C. Oswell, T. St. J.

and will commence on Thursday, the 18th of December, Duke, A. O. Page, L. B., B.A.

1879. Dunn, J. H. Parker, R. J. N.

Students who propose offering themselves for examinaEdgelow, O. Parry, W. R.

tion must enter their names personally on or before WedEdmonds, E. Paterson, R. J.

Desday, the 10th of December, at the office of the Council England, G. T. Phelps, T. J.

of Legal Education, Lincoln's-ion Hall. English, W.J. Phillips, J. E.

The examinations will be partly oral and partly in Ereratt, w. Pocock, P. W.

writing, by means of printed papers and questions, Forder, F. W. Power, H. J. M.

The following days and hours have been appointed for Fowler, G. J. Pratt, W. J.

the examinatioos :Freeman, W.

Thursday morning, December 18, 10 to 1, on Roman Rainer, F. Gawith, W. H.

law, jurisprudence, and private international law. ThursRansom, E. E. Gilbertson, H. J.

day afternoon, December 18, 2 to 5, on equity, Friday Raw, H. T.

morning, December 19, 10 to 1, on common law. Gough, A.

Friday Randall, E., B.A.

afternoon, December 19, 2 to 5, on the law of real and Graham, W.J. Rice, C. C.

personal property.
Greathead, F.J.
Richards, F. J.

By order of the Council,
Green, A. V.
Rivington, A. W., B.A.

(Signed) S. H. WALPOLE, Chairman. Greenwood, F. Robinson, H. F.

Council Chamber, Lincolo'g-inn Hall, Nov. 22. Grenside, W. 0.

Ryan, E. F. M. Griffiths, C. W.

Salomonson, C. M, Grylls, H., jun. Sandeman, G. P.

SUBJECTS FOR DISCUSSION BY LAW Haynes, H. J. Scale, R.

STUDENTS' SOCIETIES. Heaviside, M.

Shaw, J. J. Henley, E.

Mr. A. M. Ellis, a momber of the committee of the Law Shield, J. Hickmott, H. H.

Students' Debating Society, writes to as as follows on our Simpson, H, J. G.

recent remarks on this subject : Hillman, G. E. Smith, F. S. W

" In your issue of the 8th inst. there appear some remarks, Hines, W. H. Smith, J.J.

opon subjects for discussion by law students societies, Holmes, J. R. Somerville, S. E.

in which notice is taken of two questions not long ago

discueged by the Law Students' Debating Society. These questions were, “Is the tendency of modern times towards

UNITED LAW STUDENTS SOCIETY. the obliteration of national distinctions in Europe ?” and A meeting of the above society was held at Clement's• Is honesty the best policy pl

| ion Hall on the evening of Wednesday last, when the sobe “The author of the remarks appears to objeot to the first ject for debate was " That the action for breach of promise of these questions as being so wide tbat it could not by of marriage should be abolished.” Mr. F. B. Mogle possibility bave been thorongbly discussed. If the society opened in the affirmative, and a well-sustained discussion “bad fat continuously for a few weeks, perbaps some ensued, in wbich several visitors participated. Messrs. J. answers worth having might bave been obtained ; but the C. McColla, A. Rahman, Eustace Smith, R. G. Templer, C. notion of answering such a question in an hour or two, is Kains-Jackson, and W. C. Owen supporied the opener, and somewbat absord.” Debating societies, wbether legal or Messrs. Bateman Napier, E. Foa, Parker Seeton, H. G. other, are societies for debate. They exist for the | Maxwell, of the Oxford Union, and another opposed. Mr. purpoge of educating their members in the expression of Moyle replied, and the chairman (Mr. Shirley Sbirley) put thought. It is not, at least, their primary purpose to ob the motion to the vote, wben it was carried by a majority of tain answers worth baving to questions propounded. To seven. evoke debate, tbs questions chosen must be of a kind to A meeting of the above society was held on Wednesday excite interest and secure the attendance of members. It last, at Clement's-inn Hall, Strand, when Mr. W. H. will not, I imagine, be the solitary experience of the com Kelke opened in the affirmative the subject for debate, viz:mittee of the Law Students' Debating Society, that those “ That ihe law of primogeniture should be abolished, and questions excite most interest, and bring together the | the settlement of real estate limited to a life or lives in, largest number of memberg, which are somewhat general being.” In the discussion wbich followed Messrs. C. Parsons, in their terms and wide in their ecope. Both the ques.

Henderson, and A. Spokes supported, and Messrs. Rundle, tions mentioned above justified the choice of them by the

Levy, R. G. Templer, and R. T. D. Acland opposed the interest evinced by the attendance of members when they

opener, who having replied, the chairman put the motion to were discussed, and by the character of tbe debates which

the vote, when it was carried by a majority of four. On aroge upon them.

Wednesday, December 10, there will be a joint debate"I do not think the society to which I belong flatters itself

at Clement's-inn Hall between the members of the Law that the conclusions at which it arrives upon any subject

Students' Debating Society, and the United Law Students' are of great importance to the world at large. But I am

Society, the subject for discussion being “That regis. sure that in a debate of an hour or two opon the questions

tration (Qy. of title] should be made compulsory." under consideration, muoh was said worth listening to, and tending both to excite thougbt and to define opinion. The first question was really much parrower than the

BIRMINGHAM LAW STUDENTS' SOCIETY. second. As regards the latter, I may take this opportunity | A meeting of this society was held on Tuesday evening, of correcting an impression, wbich seems to have got November 18. Mr. Jos. Rowlands presided. The report of abroad, that we abandoned the venerable conclusion that the delegates appointed to represent the society at the “honesty is the best policy.” But, if you will put this recent Congress of Law Student Societies held in London proposition in an interrogative form to those accustomed to was read, and a resolution passed that it be received and accept it as a truism, I think yon will be astonished to find entered upon the minutes. A debate then took place on how little they really understand its real significance, and the following subject : “Is an advocate justified in defending how imperfectly they perceive the nature of the truth a prisoner whom he knows to be guilty of the crime with which it contains, and which will secure its permanence. which he is charged ?" The speakers on the affirmative were Mapy members of the Law Students' Debating Society will, Messrs. Rogers, O'Connor, and Jones ; on the negative, doubtless, owe to the debate in whioh they took part a Messrs. Cochrane, Taylor, and Samuel. After a summing upmore intelligent appreciation of its meaning and a more

by the chairman, the question was put and decided in the confirmed belief in its truth.

affirmative. A vote of thanks to the chairman concluded “I should occupy too much of your space if I entered upon the meeting. tbe consideration of other points which the remarks in your journal suggest. I desire only on this occasion to refer to the two questions discussed by the Law Students' Debating

MANCHESTER LAW STUDENTS' DEBATING Society, which were commented upon by you, and to justify

SOCIETY. the selection of them. It is the habit of that society to The third meeting of the session of this society was held on discuss general as well as legal questions, and in the selection Tuesday evening at the Law Library, Cross-street Chambers, of the latter as well as of the former it is the inclination of when the chair was taken by E. Jones, Esq., barrister-atthe committee to choose questions of larger rather than of law. The minutes of the last meeting having been read by more limited scope. They believe that in this inclination the hon. sec. (Mr. T. W. Millar) and approved, and other they are justified by the character of the debates which sucb formal business transacted, the chairman called upon the questions evoke, and by the prosperous condition of the hon. sec. to open the debate in favour of the affirmative. society, which they cannot but feel gratified to find that you | The question for discussion was as follows:-" Is a purchaser characterize as 'excellently conducted.'

in strict right entitled to call for the stamping, by the vene Upon this letter we have only to remark that we entirely dor, of unstamped but extinct equitable charges which agree that debating societies are societies for debate But by

| appear on the abstract of title; and, if so, should such debate we do not understand the utterance of snippets of charges be stamped as agreements or mortgages ?” Mr. knowledge or random observations made on the spur of the Millar was followed by Messrs. Butcher, Rycroft, Attkins moment. Our impression is that questions of too general a Hardman, and Price in favour of the affirmative, and Mr., character encourage the tendency to this sort of talk, and Hislop, who led the negative side of the debate, was followed tempt members to attend by the prospect of being able to say by Messrs. Marshall, R. B. Wilson, J. C. Wilson, and something without previous preparation or trouble.

Solly. Mr. Millar having after an animated discussion replied, the chairman in a most able and exhaustive manner

summed up, and put the question to the meeting in three LAW STUDENTS' DEBATING SOCIETY. divisions, and it was ultimately decided in favour of the

affirmative-the charges to be stamped as legal mortgages This society held its weekly meeting at the Law Institu. tion on Tuesday evening last. A paper was read by Mr. J.

and not as agreements. A hearty vote of thanks to the

chairman, proposed by Mr. Attkins, seconded by Mr. HardA. Neale, B.A., entitled “The Wars of the Roses: A Re- man, brought å most successful meeting, lasting upwards of view of Eight Dramas of Shakespeare," and was followed by

speare," and was iollowed by three hours, to a close. a discussion in which Messrs. E. Beresford, B.A., Cowdell, Hemsley, Napier, A. Austin, and A. M. Ellis took part. Mr. Neale succeeded in raising by his remarks a good debate, and though he did not escape adverse criticism a general At the request of the solicitors practising in the Sheffield tribute was paid to the excellence of his paper. A vote of County Court, the judge on Thursday issued an order that thanks was cordially passed to Mr. Neale at the conclusion solicitors should wear robes in court to distinguish them from of the meeting.

accountants.

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