Department of Agriculture should consult with the nurserymen, and make an effort to come to an agreement I would like to know if such an effort has been made, and if so, what is the result of it. Mr. HOWARD. We had a conference this afternoon, and the nurserymen expressed themselves as perfectly satisfied with all of the bill except section 8. That is, they did not intend to oppose the passage of the bill except section 8, which provides that the Secretary of Agriculture may quarantine against foreign districts. They simply say that if that section stays in the bill they are opposed to the bill. Mr. RUCKER. Will you kindly tell us what you said to them in regard to that section? If it goes out of the bill, you do not want it? Mr. HOWARD. We consider that the most important section of the bill. Mr. RUCKER. The bill would not be worth anything if that goes out? Mr. HOWARD. No; no. Mr. RUCKER. Did they make any suggestion regarding section 8? Supposing the committee would report the bill without section 8 in it, did they have any amendment they would like to have inserted in place of section 8? Mr. HOWARD. No, sir. Mr. RUCKER. They made no suggestion? Mr. HOWARD. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Will you express to the committee your opinion as to whether the bill would be of value if it should be enacted without section 8? Mr. HOWARD. The bill, so emasculated, would be of value to the country without section 8. Mr. RUCKER. You say it would be? Mr. HOWARD. It would be of value to the country without section 8. Mr. RUCKER. I did not understand you then a while ago in answer to my question. I asked you if section 8 were struck out whether the remainder of the bill would be worth anything, and I understood you to say no. Mr. HOWARD. Oh, no. The CHAIRMAN. Did you ask him if he made that statement to the nurserymen? Mr. RUCKER. I beg your pardon, Doctor; I wanted to be clear about that. I misunderstood you. Mr. HOWARD. Section 8 is very much more important from the standpoint of plant diseases than from the standpoint of insects. The plant-disease men insist that that is a vitally important section of the bill. If you care to hear any remarks from them on that, some of them are here to-night. The CHAIRMAN. I think, in view of the lateness of the hour, we will not consume any more time now. I understand these gentlemen are here and can be called upon later. Mr. HOWARD. The committee or the subcommittee can reach them at the Department of Agriculture at any time. The CHAIRMAN. We will ask them then to hold themselves for our call later on, if it is desired. (At 10.30 o'clock p. m. the committee adjourned.) INDEX. A. Agricultural colleges, for increase of appropriations to, for extension work, 173. Wild and domestic, importation of, 335. African, transplanting, 355. That should be introduced, 339. Apples, to establish standard packages and grades for, 199. Ayers, Dr. Brown, president of the University of Tennessee, remarks of, on bill to B. Bahrenburg, Wm. H., of New York City, remarks of, on bill to establish standard Beall, Hon. Jack, a Representative from Texas, remarks of, on- Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 63, 64, 65. Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 217, 218, 228, 252, 253, Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 353. Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404. Bixby, Col. Wm. H., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of, on bill for the Broussard, Hon. Robert F., a Representative from Louisiana, remarks of, on bill to Burnham, Maj. Frederic R., remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic ani- C. Cavanaugh, Maj. J. B.. assistant to Chief of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of, Chapman, Hon. Pleasant T., a Representative from Illinois, remarks of, on- Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 475. Bill to protect the watersheds of navigable streams, 22, 23, 24, 65, 66, 67, 69, 70, Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 210, 223, 242, 249, 251,. Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 346, 347, 349, 353. Cole, Hon. Ralph D., a Representative from Ohio, remarks of, on— Currier, Hon. Frank D., a Representative from New Hampshire, remarks of, on bill D. Dawe, G. Grosvenor, managing director of Southern Commercial College, remarks of, Duquesne, Capt. Fritz, remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic animals into E. Edson, John J., of the citizens' committee of the District of Columbia, remarks of, F. Farrington, Dr. Arthur M., assistant chief of Bureau of Animal Industry, Department Flood, Paris, 6. Floods, French, 16. Frame, N. T., of Martinsburg, W. Va., remarks of, on bill to provide for importation G. Gibson, N. G., of Chicago, Ill., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages and Glenn, Prof. L. C., professor of geology Vanderbilt University, Tennessee, remarks Goodrich, C. C., general manager New York and Hartford General Transportation Greenwald. H. P., of the McKinley High School, District of Columbia, remarks of, H. Hale, J. H., of Hartford, Conn., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages Harlan, Mr. Justice, of the Supreme Court of the United States, remarks of, on bill Hanna, Hon. L. B., a Representative from North Dakota, remarks of, on bill for the Harts, Maj. W. W., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, letter of, in regard to the Haugen, Hon. G. N., a Representative from Iowa, remarks of, on- Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 54, 99. Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 211, 212, 216, 223, 308, Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 484, 489, 490, Hawley, Hon. Willis C., a Representative from Oregon, remarks of, on- Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 42, 54, 98, 113, 116, Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 202, 205, 207, 211, 212, Bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404, Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 345, 346, 347, Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 475, 483, 488, Howell, Hon. Joseph, a Representative from Utah, remarks of, on- Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 77. Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 210, 212, 234, 260, 275. Bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 384. I. Importation and inspection of nursery stock, 469. Irwin, W. N., of Bureau of Plant Industry, United States Department of Agricul- J. James, Prof. Edward J., president of the University of Illinois, remarks of, on bil Johnson, Capt. Edward N., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of, on bill L. Lafean, Hon. D. F., a Representative from Pennsylvania, remarks of, on bill to estab- Lake, E. R., assistant pomologist United States Department of Agriculture, remarks Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 18, 46, 50, 57, 58, 63, Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 181, Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 256. Bill to import wild and doinestic animals into the United States, 347, 361. Lee, Hon. Gordon, a Representative from Georgia, remarks of, on— Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 18, 122. Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 13, 16, 18, 23, 31, 32, 48, Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 181, 182. Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404, Lisner, A., of chamber of commerce of the District of Columbia, remarks of, on bill M. Macfarland, H. B. F., Commissioner, District of Columbia, remarks of, on bill Bill to increase the appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 265. Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 383. Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 179, Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 316, 332, 333. Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 454, Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 506, 510, Metcalf, Haven, of Bureau of Plant Industry, United States Department of Agri- Meyers, Dr. George E., principal of McKinley High School, Washington, D. C., Miller, H. W., of Paw Paw, W. Va., remarks of, on bill providing for the importation Morrill acts, bill to extend benefits of to the District of Columbia, 365. Monroe, L. G., secretary Washington State Horticultural Association, remarks of, on Murphy, Hon. Arthur P., a Representative from Missouri, remarks of, on bill to N. Needham, Dr. Charles W., president George Washington University, Washington, Remarks of, on bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Statement by, 436. Newell, W. K., president Oregon state board of horticulture, remarks of, on bill to Norris, E. B., of Sodus, N. Y., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages and Nursery stock, bill providing for importation and inspection of, 469. |