Department of Agriculture should consult with the nurserymen, and make an effort to come to an agreement I would like to know if such an effort has been made, and if so, what is the result of it.

Mr. HOWARD. We had a conference this afternoon, and the nurserymen expressed themselves as perfectly satisfied with all of the bill except section 8. That is, they did not intend to oppose the passage of the bill except section 8, which provides that the Secretary of Agriculture may quarantine against foreign districts. They simply say that if that section stays in the bill they are opposed to the bill.

Mr. RUCKER. Will you kindly tell us what you said to them in regard to that section? If it goes out of the bill, you do not want it? Mr. HOWARD. We consider that the most important section of the bill.

Mr. RUCKER. The bill would not be worth anything if that goes out?

Mr. HOWARD. No; no.

Mr. RUCKER. Did they make any suggestion regarding section 8? Supposing the committee would report the bill without section 8 in it, did they have any amendment they would like to have inserted in place of section 8?

Mr. HOWARD. No, sir.

Mr. RUCKER. They made no suggestion?

Mr. HOWARD. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Will you express to the committee your opinion as to whether the bill would be of value if it should be enacted without section 8?

Mr. HOWARD. The bill, so emasculated, would be of value to the country without section 8.

Mr. RUCKER. You say it would be?

Mr. HOWARD. It would be of value to the country without section 8.

Mr. RUCKER. I did not understand you then a while ago in answer to my question. I asked you if section 8 were struck out whether the remainder of the bill would be worth anything, and I understood you to say no.

Mr. HOWARD. Oh, no.

The CHAIRMAN. Did you ask him if he made that statement to the nurserymen?

Mr. RUCKER. I beg your pardon, Doctor; I wanted to be clear about that. I misunderstood you.

Mr. HOWARD. Section 8 is very much more important from the standpoint of plant diseases than from the standpoint of insects. The plant-disease men insist that that is a vitally important section of the bill. If you care to hear any remarks from them on that, some of them are here to-night.

The CHAIRMAN. I think, in view of the lateness of the hour, we will not consume any more time now. I understand these gentlemen are here and can be called upon later.

Mr. HOWARD. The committee or the subcommittee can reach them at the Department of Agriculture at any time.

The CHAIRMAN. We will ask them then to hold themselves for our call later on, if it is desired.

(At 10.30 o'clock p. m. the committee adjourned.)

INDEX.

A.

Agricultural colleges, for increase of appropriations to, for extension work, 173.
Animals:

Wild and domestic, importation of, 335.

African, transplanting, 355.

That should be introduced, 339.

Apples, to establish standard packages and grades for, 199.

Ayers, Dr. Brown, president of the University of Tennessee, remarks of, on bill to
extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 418, 419.

B.

Bahrenburg, Wm. H., of New York City, remarks of, on bill to establish standard
packages and grades for apples, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 275,
276, 277.

Beall, Hon. Jack, a Representative from Texas, remarks of, on-

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 63, 64, 65.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 217, 218, 228, 252, 253,
266, 267.

Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 353.

Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404.
Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 481, 517, 520,
527, 528, 553.

Bixby, Col. Wm. H., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of, on bill for the
protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137,
138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155.
Boutell, Hon. Henry S., a Representative from Illinois, remarks of, on bill to extend
the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 365, 366, 367, 368, 374,
375, 381, 382, 383, 384.

Broussard, Hon. Robert F., a Representative from Louisiana, remarks of, on bill to
import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 335, 337, 339, 349, 352,
353, 354, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 562, 363, 364.

Burnham, Maj. Frederic R., remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic ani-
mals into the United States, 347, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354.

C.

Cavanaugh, Maj. J. B.. assistant to Chief of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of,
on bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78,
79, 80.

Chapman, Hon. Pleasant T., a Representative from Illinois, remarks of, on-
Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 207, 215, 219, 253.
Bill to import wild and domestic animals, 338, 345, 362, 363.

Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 475.
Clohan, Alexander, of Martinsburg, W. Va., remarks of, on bill providing for the
importation and inspection of nursery stock, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 590.
Cocks, Hon. William W., a Representative from New York, remarks of, on-

Bill to protect the watersheds of navigable streams, 22, 23, 24, 65, 66, 67, 69, 70,
71, 161.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 210, 223, 242, 249, 251,.
252, 273, 274, 275, 295, 298, 299, 301, 308, 312, 313, 315, 316.

Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 346, 347, 349, 353.
Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 417.
Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 572, 581, 582.

Cole, Hon. Ralph D., a Representative from Ohio, remarks of, on—
Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 32,58.
Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 294.
Colleges, agricultural, for increase of appropriation to, 173.

Currier, Hon. Frank D., a Representative from New Hampshire, remarks of, on bill
to protect the watersheds of navigable streams, 5, 8, 16, 20, 47, 53, 54, 55, 58, 71, 72.

D.

Dawe, G. Grosvenor, managing director of Southern Commercial College, remarks of,
on bill to protect the watersheds of navigable streams, 55, 56, 57.
District of Columbia, bill extending benefits of Morrill acts to, 365.

Duquesne, Capt. Fritz, remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic animals into
the United States, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 362, 363, 364.

E.

Edson, John J., of the citizens' committee of the District of Columbia, remarks of,
on bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 381,
382.
Extension work, for increase of appropriation to agricultural colleges for, 173.

F.

Farrington, Dr. Arthur M., assistant chief of Bureau of Animal Industry, Department
of Agriculture, remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic animals into the
United States, 360, 361, 362.

Flood, Paris, 6.

Floods, French, 16.

Frame, N. T., of Martinsburg, W. Va., remarks of, on bill to provide for importation
and inspection of nursery stock, 587, 588.

G.

Gibson, N. G., of Chicago, Ill., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages and
grades for apples, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 266, 267, 303, 304, 305,
306, 308, 309.

Glenn, Prof. L. C., professor of geology Vanderbilt University, Tennessee, remarks
of, on bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30,
31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69.

Goodrich, C. C., general manager New York and Hartford General Transportation
Company, statement of, in regard to deposits at the mouth of the Connecticut
River, 25.

Greenwald. H. P., of the McKinley High School, District of Columbia, remarks of,
on bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 460, 461.
Guernsey, Hon. Frank E., a Representative from Maine, remarks of, on bill for the
protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 72, 73.

H.

Hale, J. H., of Hartford, Conn., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages
and grades for apples, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225.

Harlan, Mr. Justice, of the Supreme Court of the United States, remarks of, on bill
extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 368, 369, 370.
Harlan, Dr. Richard H., of George Washington University, D. C., remarks of, on
bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 375, 376,
378, 379, 380, 381, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407,
408, 409, 410, 411, 415, 416, 417.

Hanna, Hon. L. B., a Representative from North Dakota, remarks of, on bill for the
protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 68.

Harts, Maj. W. W., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, letter of, in regard to the
influence of forests upon stream's flow, 169.

Haugen, Hon. G. N., a Representative from Iowa, remarks of, on-

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 54, 99.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 211, 212, 216, 223, 308,
310, 311, 316, 317, 323, 333.

Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 484, 489, 490,
518, 519, 520, 521.

Hawley, Hon. Willis C., a Representative from Oregon, remarks of, on-

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 42, 54, 98, 113, 116,
117, 120, 121, 122, 123, 135.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 202, 205, 207, 211, 212,
214, 216, 219, 221, 222, 224, 225, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 233, 234, 236, 237, 238,
239, 241, 242, 245, 248, 249, 250, 251, 254, 259, 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266,
295, 298, 301, 302, 305, 306, 307, 308, 313, 314, 315, 316, 322, 324, 325, 326, 327,
329, 330, 332, 333.

Bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404,
417, 467.

Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 345, 346, 347,
348, 349, 351, 352, 354.

Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 475, 483, 488,
490, 495, 496, 546, 547, 553, 556, 581, 588, 589, 591, 592, 593, 594, 595.
Howard, Dr. L. O., chief of Bureau of Entomology, Department of Agriculture,
remarks of, on bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock,
472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488,
489, 490, 491, 506, 516, 529, 531, 569, 578, 589, 595, 596.

Howell, Hon. Joseph, a Representative from Utah, remarks of, on-

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 77.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 210, 212, 234, 260, 275.
Bill to import wild and domestic animals, 339.

Bill extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 384.
Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 569, 578, 588.

I.

Importation and inspection of nursery stock, 469.

Irwin, W. N., of Bureau of Plant Industry, United States Department of Agricul-
ture, remarks of, on bill to import wild and domestic animals, 336, 338, 354.

J.

James, Prof. Edward J., president of the University of Illinois, remarks of, on bil
extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 384, 385,
386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 401, 402, 403, 419.

Johnson, Capt. Edward N., Corps of Engineers, U. S. Army, remarks of, on bill
for the protection of the watersheds of navigable streams, 152, 155, 156, 157, 158,
159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169.

L.

Lafean, Hon. D. F., a Representative from Pennsylvania, remarks of, on bill to estab-
lish standard packages and grades for apples, 200, 201, 202, 209, 210, 211, 218, 219,
220, 224, 225.

Lake, E. R., assistant pomologist United States Department of Agriculture, remarks
of, on bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 313, 314, 315, 316.
Lamb, Hon. John, a Representative from Virginia, remarks of, on—

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 18, 46, 50, 57, 58, 63,
69, 72, 82, 99, 100, 109, 113, 124, 142, 145, 149, 150, 159, 162.

Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 181,
182.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 256.

Bill to import wild and doinestic animals into the United States, 347, 361.
Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 545, 548, 565,
566, 567, 568, 573.

Lee, Hon. Gordon, a Representative from Georgia, remarks of, on—

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 18, 122.
Bill to import wild and domestic animals into the United States, 347.
Lever, Hon. A. F., a Representative from South Carolina, remarks of, on-

Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 13, 16, 18, 23, 31, 32, 48,
51, 52, 57, 58, 65, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 82, 83, 87, 88, 91, 92, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 104,
105, 106, 109, 110, 111, 112, 120, 121, 123, 132, 133, 134, 135, 138, 139, 142, 143, 144,
146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 158, 160, 161.

Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 181,

182.

Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 404,
453.

Lisner, A., of chamber of commerce of the District of Columbia, remarks of, on bill
to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 382, 383.
Lupton, S. L., of Virginia, remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages and
grades for apples, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254.

M.

Macfarland, H. B. F., Commissioner, District of Columbia, remarks of, on bill
extending the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 367, 368.
McDermott, Hon. James T., a Representative from Illinois, remarks of, on—
Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 76, 93, 138.

Bill to increase the appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work,
179, 181, 182.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 265.

Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 383.
McLaughlin, Hon. James C., a Representative from Michigan, remarks of, on—
Bill for the protection of watersheds of navigable streams, 20, 23, 52, 53, 78, 83,
107, 108.

Bill to increase appropriations to agricultural colleges for extension work, 179,
180, 182, 187, 191.

Bill to establish standard packages and grades for apples, 316, 332, 333.

Bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of Columbia, 454,
461, 467.

Bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery stock, 506, 510,
511, 512, 515, 516, 517, 518, 520, 521, 522, 524, 547, 549, 550, 555, 556, 557.
McLaughlin bill (H. R. 15422) to provide federal aid for agricultural extension
teaching as carried on by the several agricultural colleges, memorandum on, 193.
Marlatt, C. L., assistant chief Bureau of Entomology, United States Department of
Agriculture, remarks of, on bill providing for the importation and inspection of
nursery stock, 478, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 502, 503, 504,
505, 506, 507, 508, 532, 533, 534, 535, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 543, 550, 551, 558, 559,
560, 561.

Metcalf, Haven, of Bureau of Plant Industry, United States Department of Agri-
culture, remarks of, on bill providing for the importation and inspection of nursery
stock, 519, 520, 521, 522.

Meyers, Dr. George E., principal of McKinley High School, Washington, D. C.,
letter from, 458.

Miller, H. W., of Paw Paw, W. Va., remarks of, on bill providing for the importation
and inspection of nursery stock, 573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 581, 582, 583,
584, 587, 593.

Morrill acts, bill to extend benefits of to the District of Columbia, 365.
Moore, Willis L., Chief of Weather Bureau, remarks of, on bill for the protection
of watersheds of navigable streams, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92,
93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113,
114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119.

Monroe, L. G., secretary Washington State Horticultural Association, remarks of, on
bill to establish standard packages and grades of apples, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282,
283, 284, 285, 286, 298, 306, 309, 318, 322, 324.

Murphy, Hon. Arthur P., a Representative from Missouri, remarks of, on bill to
establish standard packages and grades for apples, 270, 271, 272.

N.

Needham, Dr. Charles W., president George Washington University, Washington,
D. C.:

Remarks of, on bill to extend the benefits of the Morrill acts to the District of
Columbia, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 405, 419, 420, 421.

Statement by, 436.

Newell, W. K., president Oregon state board of horticulture, remarks of, on bill to
establish standard packages and grades for apples, 232, 241, 247, 252, 268, 290, 302,
303, 304, 306, 307, 313, 314, 315, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 330, 331, 332.

Norris, E. B., of Sodus, N. Y., remarks of, on bill to establish standard packages and
grades for apples, 240, 241, 242.

Nursery stock, bill providing for importation and inspection of, 469.